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Is The Way Of Treating The Prisoners In Developed Countries Alright

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Started: 3/28/2009 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Diptesh

Con

Hi I am Ishwas going against the statement . Today as we can see that developed countries like America etc. are treating the prisoners like cattels, due to which some of them are becoming mentally sick and even some are dieying due to the harsh environment around them. Today the harsh availibility of environment to the prisoners are making them more aggresive and they are becoming mentally plus physically sick . Riot among the prisoners are also taking place.And these all are due to overcrowding. According to a survey presented by national geographic team it was there that about 75% of the imitants of world are found in New york. And 25-40% are of the age 18-25 years.
Due to overcrowding and harsh conditions various epidemics are also breaking out.
Have an eye on the report:-
An Epidemic of Pneumococcal Disease in an Overcrowded, Inadequately Ventilated Jail.
Medical teams presented massessed risk factors for pneumococcal disease in both a case-control and a cohort study. Ventilation was evaluated by measuring carbon dioxide levels and air flow to the living areas of the jail. The extent of asymptomatic infection was determined by culturing pharyngeal specimens from a random sample of inmates. Type-specific immunity was determined with an enzyme immunoassay.

Results Over a four-week period, 46 inmates had either acute pneumonia or invasive pneumococcal disease due to Streptococcus pneumoniae serotype 12F. The jail's capacity had been set at 3500 inmates, but it housed 6700 at the time of the outbreak; the inmates had a median living area of only 34 ft2 (3.2 m2) (interquartile range, 28 to 56 ft2 [2.6 to 5.2 m2]) per person. There were significantly fewer cases of disease among inmates with 80 ft2 (7.4 m2) per person or more (P = 0.030). Carbon dioxide levels ranged from 1100 to 2500 ppm (acceptable, <1000), and the ventilation system delivered a median of only 6.1 ft3 of outside air per minute per person (interquartile range, 4.4 to 8.5 ft3; recommended, 20 ft3). The attack rate was highest among inmates in cells with the highest carbon dioxide levels and the lowest volume of outside air delivered by the ventilation system (relative risk, 1.94; 95 percent confidence interval, 1.08 to 3.48). Of underlying medical conditions, intravenous drug use was most strongly associated with disease (odds ratio, 4.50). The epidemic strain (serotype 12F) was cultured from 7 percent of the asymptomatic inmates. Of 11 case patients tested with the enzyme immunoassay, 9 (82 percent) lacked preexisting immunity to this strain.
In recent years, overcrowding in correctional facilities has reached crisis proportions, especially in America's jails, which operate at more than 200 percent of their capacity1. There are few data on the consequences of this overcrowding with respect to infectious disease. Although outbreaks of disease transmitted by the respiratory route, such as tuberculosis,2,3,4,5 meningococcal disease,6 and viral infections (rubella and varicella),7,8 have been documented in correctional facilities, the degree of crowding and the adequacy of ventilation were not determined.
So I ask you are they not humans that they are treated like cattels.
Imazine how they are amde to live in such small cells with many more like them and just imazine to their condition that how they live in so conjusted way.

At last i woud say that now a days these jails are becoming hell and the people imitants the survivors of these.....
Other things i would like to share in the next round.......
Thanks for reading........
think and think you'll get youself.....
JakeF

Pro

Hello Ishwas, you present a compelling argument, and I wish you the best of luck.

For the sake of this particular argument, I believe a solid definition of what exactly we are debating should be emplaced. You state many statistics in your opening statement, but out of curiosity, just where do these statistics come from? To me, it seems fairly obvious that the argument is based on how America is treating its criminals in prisons, rather than how developed countries all around the world are treating them.

With that said, I strongly stand against your argument. Although the current prison system of the United States is pushing its limits on just exactly how many prisoners it can withstand, it is still doing what has to be done to ensure the safety of its occupants. Additionally, although overcrowding is present, the United States Justice Department recognizes this problem, and does what it can to prevent mass disease epidemics within the prison system. It does this by not only ensuring that inmates are secured in individual 8 x 4 cells, but also through extensive quarterly immunizations throughout the year. As of the end of '08, in the American prison system: An estimated 44% of state inmates and 39% of federal inmates reported a current medical problem other than a cold or virus.
-Arthritis (state 15%; federal 12%) and hypertension (state 14%; federal 13%) were the two most commonly reported medical problems.
-Among inmates who reported a medical problem, 70% of state and 76% of federal inmates reported seeing a medical professional because of the problem.
-More than 8 in 10 inmates in state and federal prisons reported receiving a medical exam or a blood test since admission.
-Almost all state and federal inmates reported being tested for TB (95% and 96%, respectively).
-More than a third (36%) of state inmates and nearly a quarter (24%) of federal inmates reported having an impairment.
-Learning was the most commonly reported impairment among state and federal inmates (23% and 13%, respectively).
-16% of state inmates and 8% of federal inmates reported having multiple impairments., Stats taken from:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov...

Furthermore, inmates in our correctional system are not exactly there to have a good time. Given that fact, the Justice Department still tries to ensure that prisoners are given a safe and healthy "rehabilitation" that includes a warm environment, 3 meals a day, television, writing correspondence opportunities, conjugal visits, a steady workout routine, and spends roughly $30,000.00 (US) per year on each and every loving, good hearted soul in the correctional system.

The more violent the criminal, the more money our government spends on them. Your regular run of the mill 3 strike your out cannabis offender receives approximately 30 grand per year to ensure a safe haven; a habitual violent offender: $90,000.00.

Overcrowding may be present, but this is usually only during "chow time" or "workout" time. During cell hours, inmates have 1 roommate, 2 beds, a sink, toilet, mirror, and a television. Although that may seem a bit crowded for a claustrophobic, it is a "correctional" system.

Cattle are treated quite differently actually. Cows only eat grass and grain, are butchered upon being full grown for harvest, and have a fully extended arm penetrate their reproductive systems to ensure the reproduction process is going according to plan.

So Ishwas, I hardly believe that the prisoners in our current correctional system are being treated like cattle.
Debate Round No. 1
Diptesh

Con

Diptesh forfeited this round.
JakeF

Pro

Refer to Round 1 please
Debate Round No. 2
Diptesh

Con

Diptesh forfeited this round.
JakeF

Pro

Once again, just refer to round 1 if you're wondering who to vote for. Thanks.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Diptesh 8 years ago
Diptesh
well as i was out of my city i was not able to post my comments so pls refer to above matter.And on that basis VOTE.
Posted by Diptesh 8 years ago
Diptesh
hey my health is not well enough that i can post my arguement as i have severe cold now so i forfeit this round and will try my best that i do not forfeit the next round bye..........
Posted by Diptesh 8 years ago
Diptesh
oh i am never going to leave you hang here
its just because i was busy in doing lots of homework
Posted by JakeF 8 years ago
JakeF
Diptesh....please don't leave me hanging here.
Posted by Diptesh 8 years ago
Diptesh
Hi Jakef its my mistake that i didn't mentioned the source.
And accordingly you asked me that my topic must be something different i.e. "America's way of treating the prisoner allright" know.
So my friend i want to tell you that as the debate consist of three rounds so i liked to present one by one's countries consequences.
Therefore in next round i'll be firstly going to mention those souces from where these come from,
nextly some other countries consequences.
"if you have something keep it safely for future , as great, can happen in future" by lord Kevin.
So i think it must be cleared to you.
If not then...............
Posted by asiansarentnerdy 8 years ago
asiansarentnerdy
Uh, I don't really understand the concept of this debate. Like, what are you supporting if you are affirmative?
Posted by I-am-a-panda 8 years ago
I-am-a-panda
Alot of it is copy pasta.
Posted by Diptesh 8 years ago
Diptesh
this is really a topic to be discussed andi am against the statement.
Posted by rangersfootballclub 8 years ago
rangersfootballclub
think about it , compare a prison in the u.s.a to one in south america places like brazil , colomubia and so on or other countires in the world that are devovlping still .

the devovlped countries prisons are a walk in the park compared to them , in a show i watched recently about prisoners in brazil , there are 30 of them in the one cell which is only 20 x 20 ft and there is no toilet or any kind of santation provided , they are left to do it only plastic bags and leae these bags outside there cell , every night in this cell where out of the 30 people in it it ranges from a theif to a rapists or murder , men are raped and beaten in it sometimes killed , and the prison guards refuse to do anything about it. The problem in these jails are easily 100 times worse than the u.s.a , the problem with the prisoners in most devolped countires is they choose to make jail hard for themselves.
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Vote Placed by dragonfire1414 8 years ago
dragonfire1414
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