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Is Ukraine's situation Russia's fault?

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Started: 10/7/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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casey7

Pro

I think it is Russia's fault that such horrible things happened in Ukraine. First of all, Crimea belonged to Ukraine. It was officially part of Ukraine. Second of all, Ukrainian people weren't able to have a peaceful protest. They wanted Yanukovych to sign the EU Pact, which he refused to do. Then Putin brought his own militia, and hundreds of innocent people were killed! They were tortured in front of everyone, with no one to defend them. The important thing is that they didn't give up, and fought until the end. Russia hands of Ukraine!!! Do you think that the U.S should take a stronger stand in this matter?
Spartan9876

Con

Ukraine's situation is due to the fault of American imperialism. As we know, at the end of the Cold War, the Soviet Union broke apart leaving the United States as the sole hegemony. Soon after, the United States made promises to Russia to not expand N.A.T.O into the Former Soviet Republics. 20 years later, the only states not in N.A.T.O are Belarus, Ukraine, and Moldova. The Americans are choking them in the geopolitical realm.
Imagine if the U.S lost the cold war, and Russia promised not to influence the Western hemisphere, 20 years later, Mexico and Canada are left in America's influence. Then Imagine Russia meddling into Canadian affairs. What would the U.S.A do? They would intervene, the U.S would feel like they are being choked.
Debate Round No. 1
casey7

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Spartan9876

Con

There was a leaked phone call between two European nations explaining how they "believe" the snipers used during the protests were funded by the protest leaders. After the protest leaders gained power, they refused to look into the matter more deeply. Now, assuming they are right, the protest leaders would need money to finance these said snipers. Thus, the protest leaders need funding. Who would fund them? Russia sure wouldn't, the last thing they want is the protesters to get angry and topple the government, thus who do you think would want to anger the protester to partake in these actions?

My guess says the American government who for decades now have wanted to wrestle Ukraine away from Russian influence.
Debate Round No. 2
casey7

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Spartan9876

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
casey7

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Spartan9876

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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by holybejebus 2 years ago
holybejebus
Good arguments on both sides. Right now, I believe that con is winning round one.
Posted by Spartan9876 2 years ago
Spartan9876
Thank you for the suggestion mash. I was going to add that, however there is a 750 word limit which angered me >_<. Another thing that complicates the matters is there is a conspiracy on who fired the sniper rounds amidst the protests. Current evidence points to the new ruling commission who paid the snipers, whoever this commission, once they took Yanukovych out of power, refused to look deeper into the event.
This is what I have read, if you find any evidence that supports the opposite, I would love to see it.
Posted by mashi 2 years ago
mashi
Please demonstrate evidence for your claim that Putin sent troops to Ukraine.
Posted by Magister 2 years ago
Magister
1)Crimea was added to Ukraine during the Cold War.
2)What is the US doing interfering on Eastern European affairs?What is their vested interest?
3)Russia took Crimea without inflicting any casualties.
4)Looking at the history of US involvement in foreign countries, can it be considered wise that they are allowed to get more involved?
5) You fail to mention how the Ukrainian government attacked their own people in the east of the country.
6)Ukraine is divided in opinion over joining the EU, some want it some don't.
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