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Is anger good

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Started: 12/18/2013 Category: Philosophy
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gcuervo023

Con

According to Seneca you must always be in control of your emotions, you should never let your emotions control you because otherwise you are weak. He sets anger as an example. He claims that we we should see anger as we would see an enemy. I have to agree with Seneca when stating that anger is never a good emotion to have for a variety of reasons.
BrianH

Pro

I disagree, according to Aristotle he claims that having a certain belief is essential to having particular emotions. In order to feel anger you must feel slighted (contempt, spite, insolence). If we don"t understand where is coming from we won"t be able to arouse anger. I feel like anger can be good for you because it can protect us, our relationships and the way we see things.
Debate Round No. 1
gcuervo023

Con

Using the basis that you stated about anger protecting us. I think that you are being blinded by thinking that anger actually does us any good. On the contrary, anger is usually followed by impulses and rushed decisions. Therefore, we may jump to a certain action simply because we have not taken the time to think logically and fair about a certain situation. By accepting this impulse you are rejecting reasoning. Reasoning is what guides us into assessing the likelihood of pleasure and or pain. Once we decide to let anger take over us, then we are no longer in control and it is very difficult to revert back to a calm state. Thus, we should avert anger all together.
BrianH

Pro

I can see where you coming from but this is why virtue plays an important role to guiding such emotions. There are two kinds of virtue; intellectual and moral, intellectual virtue requires experience and time, while moral virtue comes about as a result of habit. This is important because if you don't experience anger then you wont ever to able to control it. and to get the right understanding we acquire it through proper habits and ability to see what reasons best supports our actions. When we get mad we see why we got mad which allows us to reason for next time it happens. Virtue is having the appropriate attitude toward pain and pleasure which guides us with anger.
Debate Round No. 2
gcuervo023

Con

you are wrong my friend, Virtue itself does not need any assistants. Virtue is enough for itself. When you stated that anger lets us reason then it is the case that it is no longer anger the emotion, but rather reason. When it comes to actions and experiences, it is not always the case that we only act in a certain manner because it will benefit us in one way or another. It is because we are weak that we believe that anger is a necessary condition for us to be able to act in a certain way or for that matter, not to act in a certain way. If we consider how anger plays a role in a child, you will be able to understand better the basis for my reasoning. Suppose a child's toy is taken away, he or she will respond with a temper tantrum along with kicking, wailing and tons of anger. Do you look upon this child as experienced? or perhaps only being able to accomplish his goal of regaining the toy because he is angry? I believe not. On the contrary, we see a child a s weak individual who does not know how to properly re direct his emotion and let go of anger. Accepting the ideas that anger is a virtue is accepting false emotions. Seneca backs this up by comparing anger to alcohol. At times, alcohol provides us with the "false" courage to go through with an action which we normally wouldn't have because we would be in our proper state of mind. This is the same idea with anger. Anger at times tricks us into believing that we are more courageous than we really are and because of the impulse and the rush that we get once we feel anger, we are inclined to act in different ways. We should also take into consideration the fact that when you are angry you fail to see anything other than what you have already made up in your mind to be the correct approach, even if this approach is not the correct one. In essence, you must also take into account the stoics idea about not stressing ourselves over things which we have no control over. We are quick to anger because we feel that a certain outcome should have occurred, and if something does not go as we expected than we will be angry. But there is no need for us to feel contempt towards any one else s actions except our own. As mentioned above, anger should be seen as the enemy, once we allow it to enter our minds, there is now ay to stop it and we will no longer be in control, but instead anger will possess us. Following these premises, please do not feel angered when I beat you in this debate. !!!
BrianH

Pro

lol funny but I still disagree with you. I feel like anger is a good because it tells you something is wrong. We get mad when people try to take advantage of us, getting angry serves as an indication something is wrong. If someone did something you didn"t like as trying to take advantage over you and you get angry but you deal with the situation in the right way, then getting angry did the job for you. You don"t necessary have to go crazy with emotions, as Aristotle states to be good tempered is a mean with respect to anger. Tends to be unperturbed and not be led by passion and knows how to control anger. We have to understand anger and you develop virtue by learning it as a skill this is why experience is important, you can's compare it with a kid they have no understanding of anger. To analyze anger you must discover what state of mind there in, who the people are with whom they usually get angry, and on what grounds they get angry with them.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by sean96 3 years ago
sean96
Emotions can be both good and bad.
Emotions can be a driving passion.
But they can also cloud your judgement.
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