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gettgot
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Jonbonbon
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Is gambling really a "victimless" crime?

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gettgot
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 9/17/2014 Category: Economics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 994 times Debate No: 61870
Debate Rounds (2)
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gettgot

Pro

I feel that gambling is an individual's choice and that it truly is a victimless crime.
Jonbonbon

Con

Gambling is not a crime.

By extension it is also not a victimless crime, because if it was a victimless crime it would have to be a crime.

Since it is not a crime, we can conclude that it is not a crime.

Thank you for reading.
Debate Round No. 1
gettgot

Pro

Gambling is considered to be one of the victimless crimes because the parties willingly participate.
Other victimless crimes include pornography and trafficking drugs.
All of the above are also considered to be vice crimes, as well.
Gambling and the like rarely come into the law enforcement light because it is an individual's choice to participate and a waste of resources for enforcement.
My purpose in this debate is to obtain perspective from those who see an opposing (opposite) view.
Jonbonbon

Con

My point has been ignored. It is not a victimless crime because it is not a crime period. Since it is not a crime, then it is not a crime.

That hasn't been refuted yet, and my opponent cannot refute it since there are no more rounds. Thank you for reading, and just keep in mind when you're voting that if something is not a crime then it is not a crime.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by cheyennebodie 2 years ago
cheyennebodie
That is like saying suicide is a victimless action. After all you are only hurting yourself.
Posted by Jonbonbon 2 years ago
Jonbonbon
I was trolling. I didn't want to use a full syllogism XD
Posted by Envisage 2 years ago
Envisage
Should have just presented as CAMESTRES syllogism:

P1) All victimless crimes are crimes
P2) Gambling is not a crime
C) Gambling is not a victimless crime

In the format:

P1) All V are C*
P2) g is not C*
C) g is not V
Posted by cheyennebodie 2 years ago
cheyennebodie
It is neither victimless, nor in most states is it a crime.The victims are the guys family. His finances. All gambling is is a get rich quick scheme.And the odds are that over time you will lose.That is why I never gamble.
Posted by Elijahhill97 2 years ago
Elijahhill97
What are we "gambling" on if we are talking everything that you can legally gamble on than it is def not a victimless crime
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Vote Placed by Envisage 2 years ago
Envisage
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Reasons for voting decision: Con challenges the presupposition that gambling is a crime (Kritik), and Pro just continues making the presupposition without defending it (despite it being challenged). Hence Pro drops arguments, since Con undermined Pro's case.
Vote Placed by Domr 2 years ago
Domr
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Reasons for voting decision: One can not be a victim to themselves in terms of gambling. They are putting money into a game to try and win it back. If they lose, the "services received" for their money is the entertainment and chance of winning more money. Gambling is a crime, in some states. Con stated it was not a crime. (PERIOD) Which is not true. Vote Goes to Pro