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Is god real

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/26/2015 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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124275

Pro

In my opinion god is real because otherwise people would never bother thinking about it. If God wasn't real there would be no reason to belive in him because it wouldn't be beneficial. Also it's imposing to make life spontaneously despite the fact that many scientists think otherwise. For example, if you put an animal in a blender, all the molecules to make an animal are there but unless you use life to do it, it is impossible to create an animal from it. Think about it.
Proving_a_Negative

Con

The pope is a perfect counter example of your point 1. In medieval times, the pope would practically steal money from you whilst becoming more powerful by enforcing Christianity. Point 2 is a huge misconception about abiogenesis. When life originated, it was in the most simple form possible. Prokaryotic cells were probably the very first life form to exist. These require very basic organic molecules to create which existed on the early earth. Miller experiment shows this. 500 characters????
Debate Round No. 1
124275

Pro

Firstly, I would agree with you that in the past that the church was curupted but that isn't because if god so it can't prove that he's not real. Secondly, even the most primitive cells ever discovered are more complex than a space shuttle. Also even with all of our expertise humans haven't been able to even make a primitive cell without starting with other life so how could it ever happen naturally? I think that the massive improbability of life proves that there must be some creator.
Proving_a_Negative

Con

Church was corrupt then amd it can be now. One theory as to the origins of the cell is self replicating RNA molecule. It's very difficult to expand on this idea with only 500 characters! Life had roughly 400 million years to come into existence. Also remember that there are probably many earth like planets. You have provided no evidence for God. Vote con. 500 characters is retarded.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by bluesteel 1 year ago
bluesteel
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Atheism_Debater. 4 points to Con (arguments, S&G). Reason for removal: failure to explain S&G.

Reasons for voting decision: Pro designed the debate terribly. Con barely had any room to resond to Pro's arguments and Pro's argument were proved invalid. Basically Con's arguments were considerably better
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beanall. 4 points to Con (arguments, S&G). Reason for removal: failure to explain S&G.

Reasons for voting decision: Pro really didn't even attempt to provide evidence. I believe in God, but con came away with this win.
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Posted by bluesteel 1 year ago
bluesteel
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1Credo. 5 points to Pro (arguments, conduct, S&G). Reason for removal: (1) complete failure to explain S&G. (2) Con did not "whine" about the character length; only remarked on how it limited the arguments he could make. This is clearly a *manufactured* reason to give Pro more points. (3) This RFD falsely stated that Con "failed to provide a single argument." Con offered rebuttals to Pro's only explanation for God's existence (the need for the intelligent designer).

Reasons for voting decision: Conduct to Pro as Con whined about character length in both rounds (he should have seen the debate settings before accepting). Arguments from Pro weren't great but Con failed to provide a single argument, so arguments go to Pro as well.
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TheBunnyAssassin. 7 points to Con. Reason for removal: (1) complete failure to explain sources, conduct, and S&G. (2) Argument point vote appears to be biased. An RFD must do more than provide a blanket label that all of one side's arguments were "fallacious."

Reasons for voting decision: pro utilizes fallacious reasoning from the bible. The bible is a work of fiction written by men who had no clear reasoning. Con utilizes common sense and reasoning. This is an unbiased vote from a non-Christian.
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Posted by Proving_a_Negative 1 year ago
Proving_a_Negative
There would in fact still be cells alive in the blender. I wish I could have shown how ridiculous that claim was but you know...
Posted by TBR 1 year ago
TBR
"For example, if you put an animal in a blender, all the molecules to make an animal are there but unless you use life to do it, it is impossible to create an animal from it. Think about it." - I so want to save this quote. While funny, its also the most insane anti-abiogenesis thing I have ever witnessed.
Posted by Lookingatissues 1 year ago
Lookingatissues
Man's knowledge is limited, If man cannot have knowledge of everything ,how can man then declare with certainty that there is no God, Just because some men with Their limited knowledge says there isn't?
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Vote Placed by SebUK 1 year ago
SebUK
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Reasons for voting decision: BoP was on Pro and Con managed to address and refute what he said.
Vote Placed by Paleophyte 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro failed to provide reasonable evidence for the existence of god in 500 characters or less. Con did a decent job of countering.