Is hidan of the hidden mist village really dead
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I say nay, he was immortal so he is just in pieces at the bottom of the hole, if a surgeon ninja were to find him he could be sown back together and thus be a mobile threat again.
1) remembered or celebrated through all time: the immortal words of Lincoln.
2) not liable to perish or decay; imperishable; everlasting.
3) perpetual; lasting; constant: an immortal enemy.
4) of or pertaining to immortal beings or immortality.
Definitions of immortality:
1) life of which death is produced, only subject to or productive of war or conflict.
2) enduring fame.
The first reference to immortality speaks of Skoll and Hati:
Skoll the wolf who shall scare the Moon
Till he flies to the Wood-of-Woe:
Hati the wolf, Hridvitnir's kin,
Who shall pursue the Sun.
Skoll was an immortal being and Hati, a princess of the wolf Gods, was jealous of Skoll's power. In her envy, she created war and cursed all immortals to fall to the fate of conflict.
Hidan's death was a product of war and he therefore "fell to the fate of conflict". Moreover, he did truly die.
Even Masashi Kishimoto stated Hidan is in an incapacitated state, not saying if he was alive or dead. Also on the Naruto wikipedia page, in Hidan's stats he is listed as incapacitated, not dead. In the most recent series of naruto Kabuto was unable to resurrect Hidan.
Using this information we must assume Hidan is alive as part of a writing plot to keep readers interested.
My first argument against this is that this definition is objective, not subjective. Objective, in this sense means, "of a noun, excepting a pronoun". It refers to a pronoun, a living being, and so it is not immortal.
My second argument is that your reference to immortal was of the latter definition, "4) of or pertaining to immortal beings or immortality." A reference to this reference is, "if a surgeon ninja were to find him he could be sown back together and thus be a mobile threat again." As this refers only to the said definition, assumptions must occur of its ultimate reference to the definition.
"In your second definition of immortal you state that something's not liable to perish or decay. A body is still in a living state if it is not decaying and instead growing. Hidan is not truly dead but instead is incapacitated. By your framework Hidan is immortal and still alive."
Pro has given no evidence, merely statement, that Hidan's body is not liable to perish or decay and so this argument is invalid.
Pro argues that Hidan is said to be incapacitated.
Definitions of incapacitate:
1) to deprive of ability, qualification, or strength; make incapable or unfit; disable.
2) Law . to deprive of the legal power to act in a specified way or ways.
Definition of incapacitated:
1) unable to act, respond, or the like (often used euphemistically when one is busy or otherwise occupied): He can't come to the phone now—he's incapacitated.
I cannot see how Hidan being unable to act is evidence against him being dead.
Pro has failed to give unchallenged valid evidence and so has not yet produced proof.
Also, could Pro send the link to Wikipedia, as I have searched and not found a reference to the word "incapacitated", other than, "During Part II, the team reforms with two new members, Sai, who occupies Sasuke's position, and Yamato, who acts as Kakashi's replacement when he is briefly INCAPACITATED and later stays with the team when Kakashi returns."
YOUREALIAR forfeited this round.
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Vote Placed by Mr.Infidel 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: ff