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MrDrProf
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Mikal
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Is it possible to be absolutely free with a governement?

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Mikal
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/7/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 529 times Debate No: 45389
Debate Rounds (3)
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MrDrProf

Con

It is not possible based on the definition of FREE. free-not under the control or in the power of another; able to act or be done as one wishes.
Debate Round No. 1
MrDrProf

Con

MrDrProf forfeited this round.
Mikal

Pro

giving my adversary a chance to respond
Debate Round No. 2
MrDrProf

Con

MrDrProf forfeited this round.
Mikal

Pro

Out of respect I was giving my adversary the chance to post an argument. Seeing as how he FFed the entire debate, this is already a clear concise win due to no arguments being presented on his behalf.

Even under my adversaries definition

Free - not under the control or in the power of another

We are entirely free to do whatever we wish at any point regardless of where we are at. We posses the free will to kill, steal , murder and pillage if we want. The governments job is to regulate consequences when crimes are committed. Just because the government can punish you does not mean we are not free. We are totally free to do whatever we want, just when we do certain things we bear the consequences of our action

So cons contentions is not correct. We are absolutely free, we just come face to face with our choices.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by NotNeverNeutral 3 years ago
NotNeverNeutral
Governments were created in order to bring groups of people together that have different interests. It is extremely difficult to create a properly functioning government. If by "free" you are talking about being able to do whatever you wish, whenever you wish then of course a government would not allow that. But society would not function if everyone wanted to be able to do anything any time with no consequences.
Posted by progressivedem22 3 years ago
progressivedem22
Your definition of free allows murder, against which we may not exercise restraint. Frankly, I think that's the problem with radical self-interest as the basis of an ideology: it's so wrapped in folklore that it hardly considers the ramifications attached to anarchy.
Posted by PiedPiper 3 years ago
PiedPiper
It seems you've set an impossible burden on the aff. If being "free" requires not being under the authority of another then the aff would have to prove that government has no authority over the individual, which would be near impossible. That being said, I'm interested in seeing if anyone accepts and what arguments they make.
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Vote Placed by GodChoosesLife 3 years ago
GodChoosesLife
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Reasons for voting decision: FF conduct goes to Con and also convincing arguments because Con even though it was the last round stated his argument.