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Is it right to ban the burka in european countries?

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Started: 9/18/2012 Category: Politics
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Nowadays there is a big issue around the law in France about burka. The topic for this debate is fairly simple and Pretty self explanatory. Con will argue that it is immoral andinfringes rights of people .Pro will argue that it is law and people must maintain it. There are 4 Rounds, voting period is 1 week, time to argue 72 hours, 8,000 characters allowed.


Before I begin my debate I want to make clear two things: I don't think that to wear a burqa is, in itself, immoral or wrong (hence why it's allowed and why Islam advocates it). However, I don't think that law is purely based around morality, it's based around practicality and culture.

I shall define the words 'right' and 'ban' and 'burqa', niqab and hijab since I think it's important to clearly interpret these words for the purposes of debate.

Right: The best or most appropriate for a particular situation (such as a society, or culture - I added this to make it clear).[1]
Ban: To officially or legally prohibit.[2]
Burqa: A
long, loose garment covering the whole body from head to feet, worn in public by women in many Muslim countries.[3]
Hijab: a head covering worn in public by some Muslim women, but differs to niqab in that nose and mouth show.[4]
Niqab: a veil worn by some Muslim women in public, covering all of the face apart from the eyes.[5]

You are most probably discussing the combination of Niqab+Burqa whereby the NOSE AND MOUTH are covered.

First of all, I
n Saudi Arabia[6] (the birth place of Islam and home to its holy shrines) if a woman does not wear Hijab, she incurs humiliation, interrogation, stigmatization and sometimes lashing and prison. The Westerners do not reject Islam because it’s Islam; they resent the faith because of what’s being done in its name and its Shariah laws; such as stoning, oppression of women and religious minorities, incitement and fatwas against noon-Muslims, endless supply of suicide bombers, chopping people’s heads and extremities and lack of tolerance for non-Muslims. Christian churches, Jewish synagogues, Muslim minorities’ shrines and Buddhist Statues are attacked, demolished and are not allowed in most Muslim societies. So, clearly the Muslims see it as 'right' to ban non-Muslim way of life in their region of the world (namely the Middle East and certain parts of North Africa)

Secondly, if, in the Muslim world, you would get beaten up and lashed out at for NOT wearing the Niqab and Burqa, and if we assume that their society is right (if you want to attack the entire Muslim community of the Middle East, this will become an extremely long and difficult debate for your side as you will have a massive burden of proof) then why is it not right for the Europeans to force their way of life on the Muslims? It's only fair that if Europeans can't wear revealing clothing in Middle East, where the heat would require such clothing, then at least in Europe the face should be shown? A mere request to remove a face veil is far more justified, and thus more right, than forcing a BLACK veil on a woman in a HOT COUNTRY. Black absorbs heat.[7]

On another note, there are legal purposes to ban the covering of one's face, it is the same reason hoodies are banned in most shops in Europe. In the current security climate this poses a problem for many potential terrorist targets like banks, government offices etc. Faces are hard to check against ID photos and CCTV systems are rendered ineffective. The degree of the disguise is the important characteristic.

Islam itself doesn't actually require women to cover the face to be in touch with God.

Most scholars, including the four main schools of Islamic jurisprudence, hold the view that niqab is not an obligation.

They cite a number of references for this opinion.

Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: And Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.

And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof...


According to the majority of contemporary scholars 'what is apparent of it' refers to the hands and face.

Another scholar, Shaykh Kutty, a senior lecturer and an Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada suggests that because God asks both men and women to lower their gaze, it suggests their faces are visible, otherwise there would be no sense in it.

Scholars holding this view also state that it is well accepted by all scholars that the Prophet categorically forbade people from covering their faces or hands during hajj, the pilgrimage to Mecca. If it was necessary that the hands and face be covered at all times, he would not have stated its impermissibility during one of the most sacred points of a person's life.

It is also generally held by the majority of scholars, including those that believe niqab is obligatory, that covering the face during the five daily prayers is also prohibited.

Another strong indication that niqab is not an obligation is presented in this hadith.

Abdullah bin Abbas reports that the Prophet was riding a camel with Al-Fadhl, Abdullah's brother, behind him. A beautiful woman came to ask the Prophet about the Hajj of her father. Al Fadhl began to stare at her; her beauty impressed him a lot. The Prophet (peace be upon him) having noticed this while Al Fadhl was busy looking, put his hand behind and turned his face away from her hither and thither as she went along with them. Al Abbas said to the Prophet, "you are twisting the neck of your nephew!" The Prophet replied, "I noticed that both the boy and the girl were young; and I feared that Satan may intervene".

Tirmidhi and Bukhari

Scholars argue that the Prophet controlled the boy Al Fadhl's gaze, but didn't mention the fact that the woman was not covering her face. As a rule, anything that Prophet Muhammad stays silent about is tacit approval. This hadith would seem to indicate strongly that niqab is not obligatory.

In conclusion, Muslims ban the European way of wearing so why can't we ban theirs? Islam doesn't demand face covering.

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Vote pro. Middle East bans no burka so Westerners should be allowed to ban it.
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