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sean0413
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tejretics
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Is oboma being to harsh to Russia?

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tejretics
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/3/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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sean0413

Pro

I say yes he is. Because Crimea is Russia Sovereign land and it has the right to take it back.
tejretics

Con

I accept this debate. I would like to note that, as Pro is making a positive claim, they have full BoP. By standard DDO maxims, I shall provide definitions of the terms:

Obama - Obama, Barack; 44th and incumbent [as of 2015] President of the United States
Too - to a higher degree than is desirable, permisible, or possible
Harsh - cruel or severe
Russia - the Russian Federation, federal semi-presidential republic, largest and ninth most populated sovereign state, with the sixth greatest GDP by purchasing power parity

I will not begin my negative case in this round and will consider this round for acceptance only.
Debate Round No. 1
sean0413

Pro

sean0413 forfeited this round.
tejretics

Con

My opponent has forfeited the round to present the initial positive case. Nonetheless, I shall construct arguments against the resolution to negate it.

Arguments
Crimea
Pro claims that Crimea is "sovereign territory of Russia" with no proof whatsoever. Crimea was internationally recognized as the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, an autonomous district of Ukraine by international law. [1. http://goo.gl...] Therefore, this is technically an annexation of a territory of Ukraine and its absorption into Russia as a federal subject.

International Law
UN Charter
The Russian Federation is a member of the United Nations Organization [2. http://tinyurl.com...], and is, therefore, subject to the rules of the UN Charter [3. "All Members, in order to ensure to all of them the rights and benefits resulting from membership, shall fulfill in good faith the obligations assumed by them in accordance with the present Charter." ~ Chapter 1, Article II, Section 2 - http://www.un.org...]. With its annexation of Crimea, the Russian Federation *directly* violates Chapter 1, Article II, Sections 3 & 4. [4. http://www.un.org...;- Chapter 1, Article II, Sections 3-4: "All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered," and: "
All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations."] By the UN charter itself, members of the UN must "give the United Nations every assistance in any action it takes in accordance with the present Charter, and shall refrain from giving assistance to any state against which the United Nations is taking preventive or enforcement action." [5. http://www.un.org...;- Chapter 1, Article II, Section 5] The United Nations [specifically, Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon] did urge Russia to exercise maximum restraint, which Russia violated, resulting in the UN taking action against it. [6. http://goo.gl...] The United States is a member of the UN, hence is obliged to follow the UN charter. In Chapter II, Article 1, Section 1, the First Purpose of the UN is described as: "To maintain international peace and security, and to that end: to take effective collective measures for the prevention and removal of threats to the peace, and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace, and to bring about by peaceful means, and in conformity with the principles of justice and international law, adjustment or settlement of international disputes or situations which might lead to a breach of the peace." [7. http://goo.gl...]

Actions Taken by the United States of America
The United States, at maximum, only funded Ukrainian troops to defend itself against Russian invasion; it did not participate directly in the armed conflict. The United States also only imposed economic sanctions to defend the UN Charter. [8. http://goo.gl...] [9. http://rt.com...]

Conclusion
Ultimately, all actions taken by the United States [under President Barack Obama] were in accordance with the UN Charter, which both Russia and the US are subject to. As Russia violated international law, all members of the UN were/are obliged to act on the UN Charter, as NATO members, etc. did. This was, therefore, justified socio-economically and politically, and were, therefore, neither cruel nor severe, and, hence, not harsh. The resolution is negated.

I look forward to Pro's next argument.
Debate Round No. 2
sean0413

Pro

sean0413 forfeited this round.
tejretics

Con

I extend all my arguments. The resolution remains negated. Vote Con.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by tejretics 2 years ago
tejretics
:D nac
Posted by The-Voice-of-Truth 2 years ago
The-Voice-of-Truth
TEJRETICS I WAS GONNA ACCEPT THIS. T_T

But you beat me to it.
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Vote Placed by Atheism_Debater 2 years ago
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sean0413tejreticsTied
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Reasons for voting decision: ff
Vote Placed by Midnight1131 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Forefeiture. Sources were only used by con, and due to forfeiture, con's arguments were never refuted.
Vote Placed by The-Voice-of-Truth 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Well, here goes: Conduct - FF by Pro. S&G - Con had better grammar and spelling, just read round 1. Arg - Con made the only arguments, Sources - Con was the only one to use sources.
Vote Placed by tajshar2k 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: FF, plus Con only used sources and provided an argument.