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TheAmazingRacist
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The Contender
slave123
Pro (for)

Is religion a mental illness?

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Started: 1/6/2017 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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TheAmazingRacist

Con

If there was only one person who believes a magical man walked around the middle east turning water into wine we would think that the person is insane and would lock him up in a mental assignment.
slave123

Pro

Religion is smart it is how God talks to us
First there has to be a God
Who created universe?
Where life came from?
Atheists believe a Big Bang created us
Pause for a minute what caused the Big Bang?
It couldn't be nothing because 0+0=0
Quantum fluctuations don't undermine this fact that something can't come from nothing
Because virtual particles come from energy not nothing
It couldn't have created itself
Because can your mother give birth to herself?
No
It couldn't be another finite universe
Because if our universe came from another universe which came from another universe ...
If that went forever we wouldn't exist
So there must be a God beyond time and space who is eternal
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Where did life come from?
Evolution is fake
Monkeys don't become people
Cells don't create themselves from scratch
Tell me if I had all the parts of a watch in a jar and I shake that jar for a trillion years will I get a functioning watch?
No
So evolution and chance hypothesis is fake
God created us and religion of Islam must be true
Christians believe an ordinary man is god but that is not possible
There is only one God and he is not man
And his religion is true Alhumdulillah ameen
Try Islam inshallah ameen
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Posted by slave123 12 months ago
slave123
Ok
Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 12 months ago
FollowerofChrist1955
You should attend this debate:
Atheism- A lost reality! A hopeless, helpless cause!
Posted by Zaephou 1 year ago
Zaephou
Now, the statement 'something can't come from nothing' needs to be distinguished as well. How is this statement derived? From objects within the universe. So, should a law, which applies for objects in the universe, apply for the universe itself?
Posted by slave123 1 year ago
slave123
Ok interesting I never thought of that
Posted by Zaephou 1 year ago
Zaephou
>And something has to be eternal since something can't come from nothing

Again you are assuming that nothing behaves like this. A true nothing would a place devoid of anything whatsoever, no matter, no energy, no quantum fluctuations correct? Have we observed this within our universe? No. The 'something can't come from nothing' actually means that 'matter or energy cannot be created in the vacuum of space', and we know that the vacuum of space is not a true nothing and therefore you or I, or anyone in the history of mankind has ever observed or seen or experienced a true nothing. Therefore, we do not know how a true nothing behaves. Understand me now?

Due to this, we cannot conclude that the universe cannot come from nothing, since we do not know what nothing actually is, all we have are preconceived ideas of nothing which we do not know to be true.
Posted by slave123 1 year ago
slave123
And if there is any book or anything you want me to read
Please let me know I would be more than happy to
Posted by slave123 1 year ago
slave123
I don't believe nothing ever existed
And something has to be eternal since something can't come from nothing
You tell me what is eternal
Look this debate is going nowhere
I feel like I am repeating myself
This is what you should do if you have time
Read every scripture and book you can get your hands on
Use internet do reasearch
Try to find the evidence your self and make up your own mind
If you have time
Thank God I have time
I have read the entire Quran and entire bible
And all of sahih al Bukhari
I have read the God delusion
Richard Dawkins books
Steven hawking's books
And many books
And will continue to keep reading
I am still searching for answers
I will always keep searching
And won't ever give up till I find them
If you want you could do the same
Again if you have time like me
But anyways God bless
Posted by Zaephou 1 year ago
Zaephou
>Nothing can't exist
What color is nothing?

What do you think a true nothing is first of all?

>The burden of proof is on you to prove nothing exists

I never said a nothing exists, I just said that we don't know if a nothing exists or not. This question is as ridiculous as asking me to prove an invisible pink unicorn exists in my backyard.

>Matter space and time couldn't have always existed since they are finite and limited
Therefore eternity must transcends these realms

Define eternity? I am asking you to give evidence, not just assume this and assume that. God is eternal? Well alright how do you know God is eternal? Is it because God is immaterial and transcends space and time? Well alright how do you know God is immaterial and transcends space and time? Is it because God is eternal? Well how do you... You see what I mean? All you are doing is going around in circles my man, and thus not proving anything. Read this for more of an understanding: https://www.logicallyfallacious.com...

Now avoid this circle, and give me evidence for God being eternal and transcending space and time.
Posted by slave123 1 year ago
slave123
Do you get the concept now?
Posted by slave123 1 year ago
slave123
Nothing can't exist
What color is nothing?
Black? White?
That is still something
The burden of proof is on you to prove nothing exists
Obviously if nothing ever existed there would be nothing now
And how do I know a God who transcends matter space and time exists?
And how do I know he is transcendent?
Well simple
Matter space and time couldn't have always existed since they are finite and limited
Therefore eternity must transcends these realms
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