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Is the American Militia relevant in modern society.

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Started: 12/17/2013 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Full Resolution

Militias are not relevant in todays society..

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    a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.
    "creating a militia was no answer to the army's manpower problem"


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Round 1: Acceptance
Round 2: Presenting all arguments (no rebuttals by con)
Round 3: Refutation of opponent's arguments (no new arguments)
Round 4: Defending your original arguments and conclusion (no new arguments)

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I accept.
Debate Round No. 1


vaporizeislands forfeited this round.


First, let me thank VaporizeIslands for the challenge. She is both gracious and brave to take this topic on, considering where she's from and the positions on communism she professes to adhere to.

A few months ago, I stood on the State House steps during the Guns Across America rally in Boston when a Marine Combat Veteran recited the following:

Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? It is feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American . . . . [T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.

When I reflect upon the words of Tench Coxe, I can't help but wonder how he'd react to what is going on today. Nowadays, when the word militia is used, it conjures in the minds of the uneducated, images of overweight men playing Army in the woods, of paranoid folks espousing anti government beliefs or worse, of domestic terrorists.

The venerable Mr. Coxe would no doubt be ashamed of the media treatment of the word militia, but I have a feeling he'd take heart in the crowd assembled today. Today, we come together as citizens, as friends, as family, as neighbors and yes, as militia.

See, for all the bluster about the use of the word militia in the media and in political circles, there is no doubt as to the definition of the word "

Nowhere else in the constitution, does "the people" mean "the government." Nowhere else in the constitution, does "the people" mean "the police!" Nowhere else in the constitution, does "the people" mean the "National Guard."

If you are a United States citizen, Militia is YOU. Militia is ME.

Militia is every time we see an Amber Alert and actually keep an eye out for that suspect's license plate or child gone missing.

Militia is every time we help our neighbors during a hurricane or snowstorm.

Militia is every time we check in on our elderly neighbors during a heat wave, when nobody else goes to do it.

Militia is strong communities of like minded men, women and children, taking a STAND against unjust laws written by unjust politicians.

Militia remains relevant especially now, in a society whose very notion of freedom is being eroded daily by successive presidential administrations, foisting horrible laws such as PATRIOT, HR1955, the NDAA, SOPA, PIPA and the like. Militia sounds the alarm, militia warns us and prompts us to act. Edward Snowden is militia, as is ANY journalist willing to put his life and treasure on the line to preserve the republic from heinous, anti-liberty manifestations such as these.

Yes, militia does involve the armed component and contingents. Organizations such as the Oathkeepers are among the best examples of what militia ought to look like - groups of police officers, fire fighters, armed forces personnel - all of whom took an oath to preserve and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. We live in a time where domestic enemies have infiltrated both our government and media for the purposes of retaining the wealth of a very elite and chosen few. Men and women like the Oathkeepers and similar operations are a clarion call to all of us that it is time to mobilize, first with our voices and votes, and if and only if all else fails, with arms, to reclaim the birthright given to us by our forefathers, whose sacrifice is what made this once great nation.

Examples of militia, as a positive force in the country:

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Debate Round No. 2


vaporizeislands forfeited this round.


If Vapor isn't going to present an argument, I will allow my opening remarks to stand at this time.
Debate Round No. 3


vaporizeislands forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4


vaporizeislands forfeited this round.


Well, this has been a disappointment. My arguments remain, I'm going to claim the win in absence of a counter argument.
Debate Round No. 5
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro provided a valid argument while Con did not provide any argument whatsoever. The debate goes to Pro. Good luck to you both in future debates.