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DaveCandia
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Is the Banking Concept of Education Opressive?

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Started: 4/3/2013 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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riosk1

Pro

I am a believer that the Banking Concept of Education is more opressive than it is helpful. I feel that education has become more of a chore than it does a career for most educators simply just go through the motions of teaching rather than actually teaching. Freire states in his writing "Education thus becomes an act of depositing, in which the students are the depositories and the teacher is the depositor. Instead of communicating, the teacher issues communiqu"s and makes deposits which the students patiently receive, memorize, and repeat." Freire feels that this is not the proper way to intergrate information into somebody's brain. If one simply goes through the motions of educating, what are we actually learning?
DaveCandia

Con

The banking concept of education is not oppressive. The kids being educated need a mentor to guide them through it. As Hirsche says in the Decline of Literal Knowledge,"The chief function of literacy is to make us masters of this standard instrument of knowledge and communication, thereby enabling us to give and receive complex information orally and in writing over time and space." We need to learn to receive this information from mentors and students will not be able to do this on their own. As my opponent said "I feel that this has become more of a chore...rather than actually teaching." This is false because without these teachers no student will be able to learn the key essentials from education. The student needs this teacher to be there for them and support them because they are not educationally developed enough to do it on their own. After gaining skills from the teachers, the students will then be able to go on on their own; however, these skills must be learned first.
Debate Round No. 1
riosk1

Pro

As my opponent stated that student need teachers in order to learn the key essentials from education. While this is important, it isn't exactly true. There are plenty of people who got by in life without needing a school appropriate education. Freire also states "In the banking concept of education, knowledge is a gift bestowed by those who consider themselves knowledgeable upon those whom they consider to know nothing. Projecting an absolute ignorance onto others, a characteristic of the ideology of oppression, negates education and knowledge as processes of inquiry." It proves that no matter how much education one might recieve one only knows as much as they don't know. There is only so much a teacher can teach you so what does one do when there is nothing left to learn? Teachers are slowly losing interest in what they do and are not teaching students anything they may not have already not known
DaveCandia

Con

Although someone may "get by in life" they will not get by well without the proper education."We know instinctively that to understand what somebody is saying, we must understand more than the surface meanings of words; we have to understand the context as well." So sure, we can understand people without education but we aren't going to understand everything because in order to do that, we must understand the curriculum. Without the context being taught to us, we would just understand words and not their true meanings. And as my opponent said "There is only so much a teacher can teach you..." There will truly never be " nothing left to learn." We keep going on learning new things every day from the teacher. Those who are knowledgeable are the only ones who can impale knowledge into the brains of the students. The banking concept is the best way to make sure this knowledge is being passed on to students, and then one day these students will be knowledgeable as well.
Debate Round No. 2
riosk1

Pro

While you made the point in that there is always more to learn, it still does not matter due to the opression put on by the education system. Teachers are less patient and less professional than they have ever been and are using their power of higher learning beings against us. As stated by Freire "dducation must begin with the solution of the teacher-student contradiction, by reconciling the poles of the contradiction so that both are simultaneously teachers and students." So until teachers can begin to teach in non contradictory ways and use their abilities of higher learning for a less of an opressive setting, students are going to be less willing to learn every day
DaveCandia

Con

Teachers are not teaching in contradictory ways. Teachers are beings filled with knowledge that want nothing more than to share their knowledge with their students. As Hirsche says, "In the mid 1980s American business leaders have become alarmed by the lack of communication skills in the young people they employ." This lack of communication comes not from the teachers not wanting to teach, but the students not wanting to learn. As my opponent stated, " Teachers are...higher learning beings against us." The reason teachers are becoming impatient are because students no longer want to learn. And although it may appear to my opponent that these teachers are using their knowledge against us, the fact of the matter is that the teachers can do nothing but help students with their knowledge. Knowledge cannot be used against someone. The educational system is not oppressive, its just trying to help, and teachers cannot do anything with their knowledge unless the students want to learn.
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