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greatman777
Con (against)
Losing
3 Points
The Contender
STALIN
Pro (for)
Winning
5 Points

Is the God of the Bible the real God?

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STALIN
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/30/2014 Category: Religion
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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greatman777

Con

I think that the God of the bible can't be the real God because the God of the bible is an egomaniacal power hungry know it all. and that the bible is so full of crap it's ridiculous and i don't know how anyone can believe it.
STALIN

Pro

I accept this debate.
Debate Round No. 1
greatman777

Con

okay first off ill begin with how the Bible makes God look like he has next to no common sense. if he was omnicient why did he create satan knowing that he would be betrayed? why would he put the tree in the Garden knowing Adam would eat from it? why would he flood the earth knowing people would still mess up? why would he sacrifice his son knowing people would generally not accept it? next i would like to point out alot of contradictions. for one the bible says that god made man and woman before it even mentions adam or eve. and how can god be omnipresent but sin can't be in his presense? and how can satan appear before him in the story of Job but he can't be in the presence of sin?
STALIN

Pro

"okay first off ill begin with how the Bible makes God look like he has next to no common sense."

The bible doesn't do that.

"if he was omnicient why did he create satan knowing that he would be betrayed?"

God didn't exactly create Satan and no, he didn't know he would be betrayed.

"why would he flood the earth knowing people would still mess up?"

To punish those who are evil.

"why would he sacrifice his son knowing people would generally not accept it?"

To punish his son.

"for one the bible says that god made man and woman before it even mentions adam or eve. and how can god be omnipresent but sin can't be in his presense? and how can satan appear before him in the story of Job but he can't be in the presence of sin?"

This is all explained in the bible. My opponent doesn't prove that the bible contradicts itself.
Debate Round No. 2
greatman777

Con

greatman777 forfeited this round.
STALIN

Pro

Extend...
Debate Round No. 3
greatman777

Con

greatman777 forfeited this round.
STALIN

Pro

Extend...
Debate Round No. 4
greatman777

Con

greatman777 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by abraralam 3 years ago
abraralam
Q- 1-There are many religious books in world like Torah for Jews, Bible for Christians, Veda, Gita etc for Hindus and Holy Quran for Muslims . There are Millions differences among them. The followers of these books claim that their book is only the true and others all are false, mixed, cancelled or fabricated.
In this situation a neutral person wants to accept any books as a guidance for finding the right path to the God who created this universe. Then what he should do? He should study these books? If yes, then it will take many times and he haven"t so many times. If no, then what he should do? Please guide me.
A-He should see the natures like the Earth, the, Fire, the Air, the water etc and accept the book whose followers have control on natures and the natures obey them.
Because the natures are like a neutral judge .They do not tell a lie. They are 100% true and neutral. They obey only true God or true followers of God. According to my research the Natures obey only the God of Holy Quran Almighty Allah and His true followers only. They do not obey any another fabricated Gods or followers of any religious books.
For examples and details study WWW.RIGHTFULRELIGION.COM or discuss with me only friendly.
Example no -1: We have researched that there are hundreds fresh dead bodies with fresh blood of Muslim Martyrs and saints who are preserved from decay in their graves since centuries and years without used any chemicals.
Once We have dug their graves for any reasons, we have found them in above condition, our Doctors have examined them and there are thousands eyewitness too. We will not dig their graves for every person on his desire, because you are 5 Billions at this time in world.
So, if you are sincere but you do not trust on us, then contact us with your Doctors, Researchers & Media Team about research these fresh dead bodies.
If you refuted my above research, we will pay you 1 Million Dollars and we will be ready for any punishments from you in fron
Posted by abraralam 3 years ago
abraralam
The Earth, the Fire, the water and the Air obey only our God Almighty Allah or true followers of Allah. I challenge for ever that they do not obey Jesus, Mosses, Uzair (pbuh), Rama, Krishna, Ganesh, Vishnu, Gotum Buddh, Guru nanak etc their followers too. So it is 100% proof that Jesus is not a God. If any Christians claim that the Jesus is a God, he should bring any natural, neutral and irrutable proof on this belief.
It is perfect that the Fire itself haven"t capacity to save any human bodies in it. So, if a Muslim without using any chemicals goes in it and saved, then it will be a Miracle and 100% proof on truth of Islam.
But see that the 5 Billion Atheists and Non-Muslims are how much intransigents that they do not accept to demonstrate such Miracle, and if we Muslims are ready to demonstrate such Miracle (by the mercy of God), then they are not ready to convert to Islam too?

Dear Atheists and non-Muslims, I ask you that if a Muslim goes in the Fire without using any chemical on his body in front of world media and he immune to burn in it, then will you all convert to Islam or no? If yes, then fix a time, a date a place and start to announce in whole world, because you are 5 Billions and it is impossible that we enter in fire for every atheists and Non-Muslims for proving the truth of Islam.
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Vote Placed by Ragnar 3 years ago
Ragnar
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Reasons for voting decision: I hate to do this, but pro messed up pretty badly... First: All pro did was reply to con's statements, while advancing no points toward his own Burden of Proof. Second: Pro did not even adequitely answer the questions, claiming omniscience goes hand in hand with not knowing things. I would have at least expected citations to counter opinions, seems more like someone hoping a new member would forfeit... Still the new member did forfeit, so pro at least gets his conduct point; yet he has made no attempt to even approach his BoP so loses argument.
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Reasons for voting decision: FF.