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Is the Green Party Communist?

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Started: 8/26/2016 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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The Green party says they are anti-capitalist, and anti state socialism: Their economic platform envisions a system of social ownership of capital, and worker/community direct vote of how business should be run, including inputs, products, winners/losers. Is this communism? Jill Stein, and other high profile leaders are signatories to the Next System Project which, in a major argument argues the need to 'capture' government power in order to institute systemic economic and social change. While the party, and the Next System rely on a capitalist structure to implement their community wealth, and economic democratization solutions (which are effective, but not new), the ultimate goal of 'capturing' political power, destroying the capitalist system, and creating something 'new' seems to me an illogical incongruity, that is based in some irrational goal to institute a communist society for the sake of communist ideology only -- that is: the goal of destroying capitalism, and being anti-capitalist is incongruous with their empirically effective support for co-ops within a capitalist framework; and the only reason to use the term anti-capitalist, and to include rhetoric excluding capitalism as part of a solution is based purely on communist ideology, and not in empirical effects. Further, there is no need to have a goal of capturing national political power, and implementing 'new' economic and social systems from the top down, if the goal is grassroots change from the bottom up.


It's not communist
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An excerpt from the previously posted article: "We take it [capitalism] to mean the organization of enterprises into employers (a minority) and employees (a majority) such that the minority makes all the key decisions (what, how, and where to produce and what to do with the net revenues or profits of the enterprise). The majority is required to live with the results of those decisions while having little or no participation in making them. That is an undemocratic organization. It is the opposite of what we demand for our political organizations, where we require that decision-makers such as mayors, city councils, governors, congresspersons, etc., must be accountable to those affected by their decisions. For us, being anti-capitalist means being for the democratization of enterprises such that all the workers in them and all the customers and residents of communities interdependent with those enterprises have democratic, equal input into deciding what they do and how they do it. For example, if all the workers in an enterprise contribute"each in a specific way"to the profits it produces, then all should have a democratic input into deciding how and for whose benefit it is to be used. For example, if a surrounding community is affected by the production processes, the wages and salaries paid, the choice of technological change, etc., of an enterprise, then democratization requires that the residents of that surrounding community likewise have their democratic input into those decisions." Social ownership of production is communism.
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Posted by cadester97 1 year ago
Hitler was anti-capitalist and anti-socialist, wasn't a communist. Just sayin.
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