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Is the USA 'better' than the UK?

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/24/2010 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Voting Period
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JackH303

Con

(This debate is not serious, and is not intended to cause offence or racial hatred of any kind)

Is the United States of America 'Better' than the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?

I shall 'fight' for the UK, purely because it's where I was born. You don't have to be an American to 'fight' for the US, however the more patriotic you are, the better!
You can base your argument over anything great that your country has achieved. No stereotypes please (i.e - American's are fat or British people have bad dentists).
The acheivments you use can be anything, from sport to war.
I'll go first-

BRITISH MINDS

1. The UK is the worlds leading inventor. Over 70% of everyday household items and appliances were invented by British inventors. Some other major inventions include the Jet engine, Internal Combustion engine (car engine) , Steam Train/Locomotive, Radar, Submarine, Television, Radio, the World Wide Web, the Vacuum Cleaner and Toilet Paper.
2. The British discovered many breakthroughs in medical science. Some major examples include Penicillin and anti-Septic. London was the first city in the world to use sewers, and basic sanitation (the toilet) first appeared in the UK. Most modern surgical operations were evolved from those performed in early British hospitals.
3. The British have made many scientific discoveries and theories. Some of these include - The Microprocessor (building blocks of the modern-day computer), the theory of Gravity, the theory of Evolution, the light-bulb (Joseph Swann, Thomas Edison is a common misconception), and penicillin (mentioned above).

Your turn! Try your hardest, I'm looking for a good fight ;)
Ore_Ele

Pro

The only way to tell who is "better" is to compare them against each other.

We kicked your butt from 1775 - 1783, while you may have won a few battles, we won the war.

The last time the England beat the US in the Olympics (in medal count) was 1908, in London and that was back in the day, where the home team ALWAYS won (such bias times back then). This is obviously excluding the 1980 boycott the US did.

We can also see that the USA has a larger GDP per capita ($45,800) then England ($35,000).

When holding the two side by side and looking at numbers that can actually be applied to both of them. We can see that the USA is indeed "better" then England.

http://www.nytimes.com...
Debate Round No. 1
JackH303

Con

Thank you for taking this challenge :)

America did win the revolutionary war, that is a fact that cannot be disputed. However, America itself was not a nation when it happened, and many of those who fought against the crown were British themselves. The Patriots had a great deal of help from France, and therefore outnumbered the British forces severely. There are also many accounts of cowardice from American forces, such as unreasonable retreat. (I do not agree with colonisation, and am personally glad that you revolted. I hold no bitterness)

If you believe that we can find who is better by comparing, I shall do some comparing myself -
The population of the USA in 2008 was 300 million. You placed second in the Beijing Olympics.
The population of the UK in 2008 was 59 million. we placed 4th. We are quite alot better than other countries of our size and population! Besides, the Olympics was designed not to become internationally competitive.

Crime
In 2007, there were 3 TIMES MORE MURDERS in the city of Detroit than in the whole of England and Wales. (Scotland and N.Ireland are often counted individually). There were 1,007,345 people living in Detroit when this figure was counted, compared with 52.9 million living in England and Wales.
It is illegal to carry guns, knives, or any other form of weapon in the UK. In the US, it's legal, along with the death penalty (in some states). 18th century pistol duelling in Calafornia is also legal.
Ore_Ele

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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by feverish 7 years ago
feverish
What's with all the forfeited rounds guys?

Interesting to see that Con is from Charlton Kings, this makes him a close neighbour of Godsands. http://www.debate.org... Do you guys know each other?
Posted by MeganLoaskia 7 years ago
MeganLoaskia
Ah; ust a shame america wants to take over every country and every establishment in the world,
Posted by RoyLatham 7 years ago
RoyLatham
The US has food delicacies expertly prepared by immigrants coming from all over the world, providing the best food of all countries. The British have British food. OK, there are a few displaced Frenchmen, but even the the British Chinese food is not Chinese. Nothing else is comparatively of as much significance.

I don't know if dueling is legal in California, but if so it is not done with guns, which are illegal. Maybe they throw hot latte at each other.
Posted by J.Kenyon 7 years ago
J.Kenyon
Dueling is seriously legal in California?
Posted by wjmelements 7 years ago
wjmelements
"The UK is the worlds leading inventor." Odd, I didn't know that governments invented things besides military weapons.
Posted by True2GaGa 7 years ago
True2GaGa
lol
Posted by Kinesis 7 years ago
Kinesis
British have bad dentists?
Posted by Ore_Ele 7 years ago
Ore_Ele
Sure, what the heck, why not.
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