The Instigator
Coach_Elkins
Con (against)
Losing
14 Points
The Contender
Koopin
Pro (for)
Winning
24 Points

Is the glass half full or half empty is not an answerable question.

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Koopin
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/19/2010 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 3,537 times Debate No: 10895
Debate Rounds (3)
Comments (24)
Votes (6)

 

Coach_Elkins

Con

I will leave my argument until round 3. I guess you could say I'm a glass half full kind of a guy...

;)
Koopin

Pro

Answer: A spoken reply or response to a question.

For example,

8*3 = 500. I have just given an answer, it was not right, but I still gave one.

I say that the glass is half full.

And now I say the glass is half empty.

I have just answered.

I await your response.

As a side note, you may lose conduct points if you wait till round three to answer.

Sources: http://dictionary.reference.com...
Debate Round No. 1
Coach_Elkins

Con

David Levy says:
"I prefer to lose a really good game than to win a bad one"

Koopin states
"As a side note, you may lose conduct points if you wait till round three to answer."

-Ian Percy says"
"We judge others by their behavior. We judge ourselves by our intentions"
Koopin

Pro

Thank you for posting your next argument.

INTRO
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Before I begin I would like to state the obvious.

I Forgot that I was Pro, so I posted what seems like a Con argument.

Now instead of giving up I am still going to argue, but just be a bit more cleaver.

My opponent says that he would rather "lose a really good game than to win a bad one". So I shall give him a good one.

DEFINITIONS
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Just: rightfully http://dictionary.reference.com...

ARGUMENT
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My opponent is probably thinking that I gave him an easy win.

This is wrong.

I said

"I have just given an answer, it was not right, but I still gave one"

This was a paradox.

I will break it down and explain.

"I have JUST (rightfully) given an answer, it was not RIGHT, (I said it was) but I still gave one."

I have created a paradox, just like the one you gave.

I then answer the glass question. I said,

"I have JUST answered"

Again with the Just.

I will use this, as you say, in the next round (round 3). To prove something if it is needed.

I wish first to see what you say about the glass.

I will stop here for now, and wait for your unfair round three post.
Debate Round No. 2
Coach_Elkins

Con

My purpose here is not only to engage another individual(koppin), but to instill in many(internet viewers) that inside of every debate (be it this one or any another) there is a system of rules and conditions that exist prior to the controlled argument in question which affect its outcome i.e.-"semantics"....

Citing sources does little to prove the validity of any argument, and in my view, takes away from any individuals point rather than helping to improve it. Why do we need the help of the "tribe" to prove ourselves? Isn't this an attribute of any parasitic entity? A creator should stand on his or her own judgment.

To the question before the court is: "Is the glass half full or half empty is not an answerable question"? and is false and can indeed be answered, and answered correctly provided we know the conditions that existed to the prior nature of the glass.

The "paradox" my opponent claims is his or her way of stating an intention to win the debate. Winning the debate is not my intention but if this shows to be the case (in time) well I guess we'll just have to say kudos' to the free thinker's who cared to share their vote.

The "real question" before the court is: "is the glass half full or half empty"?, and can this question be answered correctly? Yes, it can, provided one knows the rules that exist prior.

That is to say, was the glass empty or full prior to posing question? Was the glass full and them consumed to the half way point?, or was it only filled to the halfway point to begin with?

For example, lets start with a glass straight from the factory. Place it on a table. Test 1 is to Grab some water and fill it half way. This is a glass half full, it is in the actual process of being filled. Test two would be to fill the glass full, followed by drinking half or pouring half out, essentially remaining with a glass half empty. Again, it is in the process of being emptied.

To conclude, "Is the glass half full or half empty is not an answerable question" is indeed an answerable question provided prior knowledge of the conditions that exist.

If my opponent wins this debate based on a "play on words" if you will, he can have the victory, much the same as the Patriots last 3 Super Bowl wins, who had "illegally obtainable" knowledge prior to the contest?

Can you find a flaw?

Good Day'
Koopin

Pro

Thank you for posting your argument.

Now I see that I will not have to use the Paradox I listed in round 2.

INTRO
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Thank you for posting your real argument. You should have said that it is a question that can be answered correctly.
I will now refute you r argument

ARGUMENT
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You admit yourself that the paradox of the glass can be answered depending on if the glass was empty to begin with.
You need prior knowledge, you have to have all the facts to answer. But the question can not be answered correctly alone. Therefore if someone randomly asks someone else Is the glass half full or half empty the person can not answer.
I am sorry if you did not like my arguments, but you said you wanted a fun game. That is what happens if you don't post till round three. I encourage you to make 1 round debates if you would like t do something like this. Or take it to the debate.org forums.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by mongeese 7 years ago
mongeese
Koopin, I personally would have pointed out the lack of a question mark in the resolution. It's not a question if it doesn't have a question mark.
Posted by Coach_Elkins 7 years ago
Coach_Elkins
Oh wow...a comments section...this website is what I've been looking for...thank you all for your attentions here....koppin, as you were my friend.
Posted by SexyLatina 7 years ago
SexyLatina
Vote Koopin because there's no other way to vote. Coach_Elkins hasn't said anything.

Patriots wat.
Posted by Koopin 7 years ago
Koopin
Why vote koopin?
Posted by Koopin 7 years ago
Koopin
wHAT DOES THE PATRIOTS HAVE TO DO WITH THIS?!?!?
Posted by SexyLatina 7 years ago
SexyLatina
Koopin: Your round one is bad form, and I just wanted you to know that.

I posit that no-one should vote on this debate, as it is clearly a statement by Coach_Elkins and not really a debate. People are going to vote anyway. So, vote Koopin, obviously. We don't want to encourage statements framed as debates.
Posted by Koopin 7 years ago
Koopin
I was going to use something else, but I wanted to do something totally random.
Posted by mongeese 7 years ago
mongeese
Koopin, you're not using what I thought you'd use.
Posted by Koopin 7 years ago
Koopin
Please do not debate in the comments.
Posted by Ore_Ele 7 years ago
Ore_Ele
Personally, it depends is it being filled or being emptied. If I'm filling my gas tank, I may fill it to "half full" though if I'm driving and using gas, I might say that it is now 1/2 empty.

though if a glass of milt is just sitting there, with no knowledge if it was being filled or emptied, I'd probably just drink it and call it good.
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