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Retrolocke
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Is there any human action that is not in some way selfish?

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oldman1990
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 9/15/2013 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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oldman1990

Con

I am arguing that there is no human action that is not is some way selfish.
My opponent must argue that there is and provide examples.
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Retrolocke

Pro

I am new to this website, so bear with me if I post something that may sound ignorant, such as this sentence. I define a selfish action as any action committed by an actor that bears a beneficial relationship to the self; an example of this are any actions that the human body must make in order to stay alive. I define a subjective action as any action committed by an actor that bears no relation to the self; an example of this is submitting to torture without any third-party knowledge or grievance towards the torturer.
Debate Round No. 1
oldman1990

Con

I thank my opponent for excepting this debate and good luck.

1st off I guess we should look more at the different implied meanings of "selfish," the first being the one is most common, which is self centered in all aspects. I Guess Gordon Gekko, Michael Douglas' character in the movie "Wall Street" is a prime example.
Selfish in the sense of Ethical Egoism however
"the habit of valuing everything only in reference to one's personal interest; selfishness (opposed to altruism ). " http://dictionary.reference.com...
Is more the lens that human action can be studied better.
All humans act in a selfish manor in accordance with my opponents definition, "any action committed by an actor that bears a beneficial relationship to the self." In the main scheme of things sums up all human action.
Any action that any human commits in one way or another pertains to themselves. Even the most "selfless of acts," is somewhat self oriented therefore making it a selfish action.
Retrolocke

Pro

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Debate Round No. 3
oldman1990

Con

Being my opponent has forfeited the last round, I leave the ball in his court.
Retrolocke

Pro

Retrolocke forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by oldman1990 4 years ago
oldman1990
if the action is the product of a motivation, how is it not selfish?
Posted by InVinoVeritas 4 years ago
InVinoVeritas
Human actions cannot be selfish; the motivations behind them, however, can be.
Posted by oldman1990 4 years ago
oldman1990
Philosophically all actions are in someway selfish. It has nothing to do with if I can know your thoughts. Egoism.
Posted by johnnyvbassist 4 years ago
johnnyvbassist
I would refine your argument, because no human being can know another human being's intentions unless that human being revealed them, in which the former still does not have any guarantee that the latter is not lying.
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