Islam becoming the dominant religion in the upcoming years
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There is little chance of Islam becoming the dominant religion of the future.
Islam is retroism to the extreme. It attempts to make the human race go backwards. Humans are not for turning.
Islam is a tribal desert religion which preaches nonsense. It puts half of the worlds population into submissive bondage because of its masculine dominance. If this religion is to become dominant it will only occur if the following conditions exist, ie poverty, famine, war and global destruction. In such circumstances the poor and hapless might flock to this Neolithic cave for sanctuary.
You must explain to us what the global benefits of this thing actually are.
You must explain why a Hell doctrine in 2016 is not to be ridiculed.
Listen to me, you are young, get a hobby. Climb a mountain or take up gardening. You should not waste your breath advertising this perversion IMHO
As to you stating that Islam is a tribal desert religion that preaches nonsense, I disagree. I would highly suggest you read the principles that Islam is founded on (equivalent to the 10 commandments in Christianity) and if you have the time, the teachings of Muhammad. You'll find that the principles are the same as the Bibles, that is, what Jesus Christ teaches, which are moral principles such as love others, be gracious, be honest, etc. They are principles that you can find in a child's story book, but they remain good principles that help us live better lives, which I'd say is anything but "nonsense" as you stated.
You are right though, if the world becomes impoverished, or if famine occurs, etc then of course human beings will flock to religion to gain some relief from their suffering, they always do. But, from what the numbers show, people are not flocking to Islam because of the destruction of earth, no, in fact they are flocking to that religion for their own spiritual purposes, just as people flock to Christianity. I feel you are being naive on the subject matter and need to study up a bit on the history of Islam.
With the greatest of respect, jmaas. How could you deduce from my submission that I am in need of further reading on Islam? Is it because I reject it as nonsense? Can an Islamic scholar not conclude that the stuff is worthless? Can they not achieve this state of wisdom? I know alot more about the different sects of Islam than you might imagine.
For starter,you might like to explain why this 'wonderful thing' is so fractured and hostile to itself. Explain this if you can. One crowd belief that the secular administration of Islam is to be done by succession from the Mohammad family while the other expounds the virtue of local democratic succession within their priesthood. They both hate and despise each other to the point of violence and bloodshed in many of the countries of the Middle East. Are you going to tell me that Catholics and Protestants do/did the same. Is this the logic of your submission, ie that the others are as bad or worse. Is this the weakness of what you are about. Why do Shias and Sunni Muslims hate each other. More importantly, in you opinion , which of them is correct in their religious understanding about Islam. Which side are you on.
If you cannot answer the above then there is little point in you advertising 'the wares' of this antique garbage. You make the point yourself in comments when you attempt to defend Islam by mentioning the horrors of Catholicism in the middle ages. That is something wonderful to be going forward with into the future. It is better than witch burning. Wow! I do not want to have anything to do with a third world religion that turns women into domestic possessions and sex and procreation into a cloak and dagger undertaking . I will take my chances with a 'bunny ranch' any time. (At least it is transparent in its intent) I am male and I consider the female in all their forms to be beautiful and interesting. I consider them as complete humans just as myself and I refuse to dictate wisdom to them. I refuse to regard their demeanour as 'sinful' in any way and I reject the necessity for religious intervention in the area of human sexuality. Just because a young woman is 'topless' on a beach does not mean that I am going to jump her. Her skin is the same as mine and her youth is to be admired. Do you want these women in black tents, jmaas. Why is this the preaching of Islam.
Islam despises the west and all its many perversions, while simultaneously using its technology to advance its influence. Islam is nuclear, it is internet savvy and it is ambitious within the laws of capitalism. It wants it's cake and eat it and it does all this on 'God be good to Him' waffle. Give us all a break and stop defending this 'fraud'. Thanks.
You asked me in your last debate "how could I deduce from your submission that you are in need of further reading on Islam?", and perhaps I put that a bit poorly and I apologize for that. I was hoping you would read the principles that Islam was founded on, and the teachings of Muhammad, both of which I do not know if you have taken the time to study. I do not doubt your abilities as a scholar or your knowledge. I'll put the link below to the Five Pillars of Islam (their 10 commandments so to speak) in case you did not know:
My original debate was if it is a good idea or not for Islam to become the dominant religion within the next 50 years. I do not intend to go off on tangents such as women's rights or sex exchange. I understand that is happening, but what I am interested in is numbers and statistics. And thank you for letting me go further with a comparison with Christianity, because it is so easy to compare the two. For instance, If we were talking about Christianity instead of Islam, I would not want to dwell on the Westboro Baptist Church and their fowl deeds when we have the rest of the Christian population to consider. That is the sentiment I intend to dwell on, not a cluster of people within a larger group, but the larger group itself. Islam as a larger group are a good and wonderful people, just as you said Christianity is. That is the point I am after.
Now, to be fair, I did say that Christianity has done some pretty foul things throughout time, and that is true. I was merely trying to put into perspective that the entirety of Islam is not dangerous or have twisted idealism. We cannot cluster an entire body of people into a throw off sect.
And please site your sources, I certainly have. I'd like to see proof to back up your statement saying that most of Islam is dangerous.
If you are unwilling or unable to answer any of my questions then that is as it is.
Islam is divided and it will implode on itself just as Christianity did in the past. It will proliferate into a plethora of inbred cousins who will be competitive and hostile to each other. This will be global in terms of the noise of their disputes but not in terms of influence. Catholicism will remain the worlds dominant religion of choice and it is more likely to be attractive to the great unwashed in the future. I will not be participating in any of these shenanigans and I would advise all secular States to be firm in their stances against religious infractions against our basic human freedoms.
This Utopian Islam that you hallucinate about does not exist in reality and it never will.
I enjoyed talking to you and I thank you for your time.
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