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Islam is Not the true way to God.

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Started: 9/8/2015 Category: Religion
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Islam is not the true way to God. I take the pro stance because I believe the above statement.

I open by saying that I believe Islam to be a distorted knock off of the pre existing Christian and Judaism religions which predates Islam by approximately 600 years in the case of Christianity and thousands of years in the case of Judaism.

Islam/Muhammed took stories from Judaism and claimed them for himself. Muhammed took the Christian principles from the New Testament and flipped them or distorted them to come to his own belief system which then became a religion which massed through time into a religion consisting of well over a billion claimed followers.

The first point I would like to cover is the story of Ishmael and Isaac, the children of Hagar and Sarai with Abraham. Sarai's son Isaac, was the child of the free woman, and Hagar's child Ishmael was the child of the slave according to Judaism and Christianity. "Ishmael shall be like a wild donkey upon the Earth" according to Judaism and Christianity. In Islam, this story gets changed into an Ishmael/Isaac reversal from the original story of Judaism. In the several thousand year old story of Judaism, Isaac was placed on the altar by Abraham. In Islam, which came along thousands of years later, the story is swapped. Ishmael is on the altar. This is an example of Muhammed stealing a story, changing it, and making his own assessment.

I would prefer a Muslim take the debate but will debate anyone desiring to defend Islam. Thank you.


Man's existence in this world and the creation of this entire universe are not mere accidents or products of a fortuitous nature. This universe, every single atom of it, manifests and leads us to the realization of a Loving, Merciful, and All-powerful Creator. Without a Creator, nothing can exist. Every single soul knows that he is existing and that his existence is dependent upon a Creator he knows for sure that he cannot create himself. Therefore it is his duty to know his master, the Creator.

Man is a unique creature. God establishes man as His representative or deputy to govern over all other creatures in this world. He is endowed with the faculty of REASON which sets him apart from all other animals. Together with this faculty to discriminate and discern, man is given the freedom (free-will) to choose for himself a way of life worthy of his position as God's representative or to fall lower than the lowest of all animals or creations. Man is born pure and sinless and is given the choice to do righteous deeds or indulge in sins.

The Creator, out of His abundant Love and Mercy for mankind has not left us in darkness to discover the right path by trial and error alone. Coupled with our intellectual capability to reason, our Creator bestowed upon us DIVINE GUIDANCE that outlines the Criterion for TRUTH, knowledge, as well as the reality of our existence in this world and the Hereafter.

From the beginning of mankind, our Creator sent prophets to convey His REVELATION and to invite human beings to the path of true PEACE and OBEDIENCE to the ONE TRUE GOD. This is ISLAM. This message is conveyed towards successive generations of man through the different prophets, all inviting mankind to the same path. However all the earlier messages or revelations from God were distorted by people of later generations.

As a result, pure Revelation from our Creator was adulterated and polluted with myths, superstitions, idol worship and irrational philosophical ideologies. The religion of God in a sense was lost in a plethora of religions. Human history is a testament of man's drift between light and darkness, but God out of His Abundant Love for mankind has not forsaken us.

When mankind was in the depths of the Dark Ages, our Creator sent His final Messenger, prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon him) to redeem humanity with the final revelation which represents the ultimate and permanent source of guidance for the whole world.

The following criteria can best serve as a gauge to find out the authenticity of the last revelation (the Qur'an) as words of God:

1. Rational Teachings: Since our Creator bestowed reason and intellect upon us, it is our duty to use it to distinguish the TRUTH from falsehood. True, undistorted revelation from God must be rational and can be reasoned out by all unbiased minds.

2. Perfection: Since our Creator is all perfect, His revelation must be perfect and accurate, free from mistakes, omissions, interpolations, and multiplicity of versions. It should be free from contradictions in its narration.

3. No Myths or Superstitions: True revelation is free from myths or superstitions that degrade the dignity of our Creator or man himself.

4. Scientific: Since our Creator is the Creator of all knowledge, true revelation is scientific and can withstand the challenge of science at all times.

5. Factual Prophecy: Our Creator is the Knower of the past, present and future. Thus His prophecies in His revelation will be fulfilled as prophesied.

6. Inimitable By Man: True revelation is infallible and cannot be imitated by man. God's true revelation is a Living miracle, an open book challenging all mankind to see and prove for themselves its authenticity or veracity.

Can we find an explanation of the great universe? Is there any convincing interpretation of the secret of its existence? We realize that no family can function properly without a responsible head, that no city can prosperously exist without sound administration, and that no state can survive without a leader of some kind. We also realize that nothing comes into being on its own.

Moreover, we observe that the universe exists and functions in the most orderly manner, and that it has survived for hundreds of thousands of years. Can we, then, say that all this is accidental and haphazard? Can we attribute the existence of man and the whole world to a mere chance? Man represents only a very small portion of the great universe, and if he can make plans and appreciate the merits of planning, then his own existence and the survival of the universe must also be based on a planned policy.

This means that there is a Designing Will behind our material existence, and that there is an extraordinary power to bring things into being and keep them moving in order. In the world there must be a Great Force in action to keep everything in order. In the beautiful nature there must
Debate Round No. 1


I respectfully point out my opponent's first argument is not sourced or documented as a source and comes from the following web link:

Nevertheless, I move forward in the debate.

Islam changed the story of Isaac and Ishmael from the book of Genesis in the Bible. In the book of Genesis, Isaac is put on the altar by Abraham. Islam states that Ishmael was put on the altar instead of Isaac. This is because Arabs consider themselves from Ishmael and believe Ishmael was in Mecca with Abraham long ago according to their own traditions.

King James Bible
(Genesis 22:9)(Version in Christian translation in Holy Bible)
And they came to the place which God had told him of; and Abraham built an altar there, and laid the wood in order, and bound Isaac his son, and laid him on the altar upon the wood.

(Translation from Jewish Torah)
(Genesis 22:9)(Version of Judaism)
And they came to the place of which God had spoken to him, and Abraham built the altar there and arranged the wood, and he bound Isaac his son and placed him on the altar upon the wood.

Approximately 2,600 years passed from the Judaism Genesis account of Abraham putting Isaac on the altar before Muhammed wrote the Quran and before Islam was a religion. Christianity, which is much younger than Judaism, is within itself approximately 600 years older than Islam. Islam came 3rd in the order of birth of the 3 Abrahamic faiths. It is the newest or youngest of the 3 faiths.

-Quran and Ishmael-
In the tale of binding (Surah 37:99-110) the Prophet Muhammad identifies the son to be sacrificed as Ishmael and not Isaac according to the traditions and leaders of Islam.

Compare Islam vs. Christianity

Christianity says Jesus is the Son of God. The Quran says God has no son.

Christianity says love your enemy. Islam condones beheading your enemy.

Christianity says Jesus died on the cross, so Muhammed countered by saying Jesus did not die on the cross and Allah replaced him with a Jesus doppleganger.


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Debate Round No. 2


Islam is a backwards version of Christianity. It takes Christianity and flips it and on purpose. It is Christianity in reverse.

My first point is that Christianity is the older belief system. It is 600 years older than Islam. It came first.

Jesus is the Son of God in the Christian Bible. The Quran says God has no son.

In Sura 10:68-70 They say: "God hath begotten a son!" - Glory be to Him! He is self- sufficient! His are all things in the heavens and on earth! No warrant have ye for this! say ye about God what ye know not? Say: "Those who invent a lie against God will never prosper." A little enjoyment in this world!- and then, to Us will be their return, then shall We make them taste the severest penalty for their blasphemies."

The Christian Bible says Jesus is the source of salvation. Islam states that submission to Allah is how you obtain salvation.

The Christian Bible says Christians will be beheaded in the end times for their faith. Islam, of course, then feels a need to behead Christians.

"ISIS Declares War on the Cross: 21 Christians Beheaded"

The Christian Bible speaks of the "Antichrist", and the reference is bad. Islam embraces the term "Antichrist" and looks for Imam Mahdi as its "Messiah" like figure who will lead them to world dominance and defeat Christianity in the end. Ironically, the Mahdi fits the Biblical version of the Antichrist.

References to the Mahdi are found in hadith (the reports and traditions of Muhammad's teachings collected after his death). According to Islamic tradition, the Mahdi's tenure will coincide with the Second Coming of Jesus Christ (Isa).

The Christian Bible speaks of the Antichrist as "getting his power" from the "false prophet". So naturally, Islam says Jesus, "The prophet" will come in the end to abolish Christianity and support the Mahdi as a lesser figure. In Christianity, such a person would be a "false prophet". (Isa) Jesus, the prophet in Islam, fits the description of the "false prophet" in the Christian Bible.

In the Christian Bible the number 666 is the number of the Antichrist and Satan. Of course, in Islam 6 and 666 are revered as holy numbers.

The Christian Bible says man is born into sin. Islam says the opposite.

"According to Christian doctrine, humankind is considered wayward and sinful." The doctrine of original sin states that humankind is born already tainted by the sin of Adam and therefore separated from God, and in need of a redeemer." Islam on the"other hand out rightly rejects the Christian concept of original sin and the notion that humankind is born sinful."


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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by DebateLover321 2 years ago
NO I don't know who that is
Posted by Sooner 2 years ago
My opponent and the commenter are the same person. On both profiles are 69.61% debate % despite one having no debates. Ip address check.
Posted by v3rd3_fiv3r 2 years ago
Do they not then consider the Qur'an carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much contradictions. Surah An-Nisa' (The Women) ... all my life i search for a simple one contradiction and thanx to god i haven't find .
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