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Worship_Allah
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Islam the true religion of God

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/26/2015 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Worship_Allah

Pro

Islam is the true religion from god and that's the truth. Surrender to Allah or you wil be amongst the losers.
Envisage

Con

Thanks Pro.

C1. Bacon disproves Allah
Bacon is the single most orgasmic food to have ever been conducted. It is single handedly capable of raising the dead and curing their hangover. Allah hates bacon, and allegedly put demons in it - however bacon is too delicious to be of demon origin. Because bacon is obviously of divine origins - it follows Allah cannot be the God in question that created it.

C2. Beer
Beer is awesome - it allows one to wash away their life's worries, grow pubic hair, and to induce involuntary nausea and amnesia with an act as simple as just consuming it. No rituals required. Given this transformation is akin to an old age miracle, and given that Allah hates booze - it follows that Beer too is of divine, yet not Islamic, origin.

C3. Porn & Scarlett Johannsen
Scarlett is obviously crafted of angels. Yet she is white, eats bacon, and is not Islamic. Ergo, Allah did not create her.

If you follow Islam, you stand to love out on these divine gifts. All hail bacon!!
Debate Round No. 1
Worship_Allah

Pro

Allah has created everything in the universe and in the heavens. There are strict protocols to follow as a Muslim but that is only to help us succeed in this world and in the hereafter.

FOR EXAMPLE:

A) Alcohol is the mother of all evils. Today, most people have to be sent to rehab and seek help because of this evil liquor. Most parents that do drink alcohol are abusive and may even abuse their own children. As you can see, Allah has given us a way to avoid ALL of this.

B) Bacon is not healthy and Fast food restaurants can adhere too that. Although Bacon may be organic it also has saturated fats that can lead to heart problems. Allah has taught us to avoid this altogether.

C) Porn is something that is disgraceful and a negative influence on the human body and soul. Those who watch porn and do so on a daily basis are more expected to act upon such an evil thing. It fills your mind with dirty things and can even effect your future. Most people who watch HARD porn on a daily basis are more prone to becoming rapists. Plus, this piece of junk degrades women for who they are and are used as material objects. Allah has raised the status of a women 3 times higher than that of a man.

ALLAH KNOWS ALL AND THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD FOLLOW ISLAM.
Envisage

Con

If Allah created all things, then he would not have created things he would forbid with more perfection than anything else. Yet he did, thus Islam is false.

Allah has created everything in the universe and in the heavens. There are strict protocols to follow as a Muslim but that is only to help us succeed in this world and in the hereafter.

Beer
"Most parents that do drink alcohol are abusive and may even abuse their own children"

Really?

In the US, 56.4% of people had drank in the past month.[http://www.niaaa.nih.gov...] Is Pro really arguing that at least 56.4% of all American parents are abusive and abusing their children? Pro's facts don't add up.[http://www.jimhopper.com...]



Pro doesn't address my positive points on the perfection of beer. It is a great way to induce nausea and temporary amnesia. It may even get you laid.[https://en.wikipedia.org...] And it is an excellent social device, especially at college.

Bacon

Saturated fats have been proven to not be harmful, and their connection to heart diseased thoroughly refuted in the 40 years since the 1970 study alluded to the connection.[http://www.nhs.uk...] Furthermore, bacon contains about 40% unsaturated fats, yet virtually all types of meat contain roughly this same ratio, e.g. ground beef with 45%,[https://www.google.co.uk...] chicken 32%, lamb 45%,[https://www.google.co.uk...]etc.


Ergo, Pro's point fails here. All hail t3h glorious bacon, in all of its beauty!

Porn & Scarlett Johannson
I am not sure how causing an erection is a "negative influence" - surely it "positively induces" turgidity in the penis? Furthermore Pro's alleged "porn causes rape" assertion has been thoroughly refuted, with it found to be a correlation-causation fallacy. Causation is actually in reverse, where rapists tend to watch more porn due to their sexual drive.

Furthermore, men are in porn too! And it does not degrade women when it portrays their beautiful bodies for all of God's glory:



Who the heck puts a pasterpiece in the closet for nobody to see? If you make a work of art - you ought to display it.


Debate Round No. 2
Worship_Allah

Pro

Worship_Allah forfeited this round.
Envisage

Con

My opponent forfeits....
Debate Round No. 3
Worship_Allah

Pro

Worship_Allah forfeited this round.
Envisage

Con

GG Pro.

It seems Allah doesn't like debates either.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Envisage 1 year ago
Envisage
I hope your mother is well WA.
Posted by Envisage 1 year ago
Envisage
Not to mention Scarlett Johannsen. Pulled no punches here.
Posted by WaywardSon 1 year ago
WaywardSon
glad to see this is A serious debate. Beer, bacon, and porn, all essential of course.
Posted by Worship_Allah 1 year ago
Worship_Allah
Sorry, My mother has been sick so I had to attend to her. I'll be ready to post my argument hopefully tomorrow
Posted by missmedic 1 year ago
missmedic
Don't believe without knowing, because the more you know the less you believe.
Posted by Envisage 1 year ago
Envisage
My argument is flawless. To say otherwise is blasphemy.
Posted by ALGHAWI 1 year ago
ALGHAWI
First of all islam is the most kind religion on the face of the earth . Maybe some of the rules are a little hard to understand maybe because you have been raised on a christian society . And my opinion on envisage argument, its the most stupid argument i have ever seen . If something is good doesn't mean that it is not forbidden, it is like you will say killing people is okay to do because it is fun . What is wrong is wrong . The god forebbid these things on perpes to see who will obey him and who will talk the wrong way .

To respond on the video on the comment i didn't see the whole video so i cant say that he was wrong or right . But when islam talk about a man hitting his wife it is not actually hitting. When your wife do something wrong first you should advice her and tell her about the thing that she did wrong . But if she did it again you go to phase two and it is to just give her your back on bed it actually makes her feel bad about her self . But even though some wife's continue to do the same bad thing . So the phase three says to hit your wife and the hit that islam ment is the hit the doesn't hurt , and it not even leave a wound . But women are not like man they feel hurt even if the hit doesn't hurt so eventually she will feel a shamed of the thing she did and hopefully she will come around

Islam is not a cruel religion once you understand his rules . So don't judge without knowing .
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
disgusting
Posted by ChickenBakuba 1 year ago
ChickenBakuba
God will strike them down for not obeying the 10 Commandments :3
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Vote Placed by Skepticalone 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Omg, that was hilarious! Conduct and arguments to Con due to forfeit by Pro.
Vote Placed by salam.morcos 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con's argument were absolutely terrible. But they did make me laugh, especially the Scarlett Johanson argument. But Con wins because of double ff from Pro. Also Pro is clearly not interested in debating, and only defending his belief and Islam's position on beer, bacon and porn. Con was debating for the heck of it. Pro didn't provide any evidence "whatsoever" that Islam is the true religion so he failed to fulfill his BoP. I'm afraid that Con's silly arguments were at least arguments, so I vote Con.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro's problem is that he didn't spend much time attacking Con's assumption that pleasurable things that are against Islam prove Islam false. Pro tried to refute Con's three examples by showed that they were evil. Although, he has no sources, when he should've. Con gave many sources that refuted Pro's claims. Like alcohol causing abuse, bacon being harmful, and porn causing rape. Since Con had sources where he should've, he gets the source point. He gets conduct for Pro's forfeit. And, arguments since he defended his arguments from the attack that they weren't healthy.
Vote Placed by Fkkize 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro makes no arguments of his own and fails to rebut Con's. Also Pro FFed multiple times. In the end, beer and Scarlet Johanson make a pretty strong case against islam being the true religion.
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Reasons for voting decision: Con's argument are offensive to Islam, so he only narrowly avoids losing conduct because of Pro's forfeits. Con's arguments are clearly wrong and stupid, but Pro did not fulfil his/her BoP, so Con wins arguments. Con's sources are typical work from the forum-sliding, COINTELPRO operator that he is, trying to stifle the word of Allah in a vacuum of meaningless noise. I suggest that everyone back-trace his I.P and hand it into ISIS headquarters, in order to prevent his free-speech shilling. But anyway, he wins points for at least having sources that worked to provide a counter-case.