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Started: 6/20/2016 Category: Religion
Updated: 5 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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thedebater99

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Islam is not a religion of peace! Explain to me why orthodox Jews and Devout Christians are not perpetrating these horrendous crimes/terror? Islam is anti-homosexual and generally a very misogynist country. They stone you if you leave the "religion", are homosexual, commit adultery, or are a woman that commits minor crimes(crime is an exaggeration). Woman are FORCED to conceal their bodys all day even during times of scorching hot weather. It is miserable. All though you might claim that only a select few of people are "terrorists" within the religion, and perpetrate terror, that is false. The Islamic folks that are not willing to blow themselves up are still regressive and barbaric. They still believe in these archaic ideoligys that I reffered to above and try recede society in a quiter and less obvious way. Check out (thereligionofpeace.com) or. https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com...; - derived straight from the Quran itself!
LHARG28

Pro

Islam being a religion of peace is very tough to nail down. however the point of view you seem to be taking on this one is that the entirety of the religion is bad, is laughable. my first point to make is that Islam is not a country, and more an ideal, or idea. second of all, i have lived in Saudi Arabia ( a very Islamic country) for two years. during that time, i lived in dharan, and to say that " The Islamic folks that are not willing to blow themselves up are still regressive and barbaric" is completely wrong. they are human beings, just like us, and i can assure you, they are not regressive or barbaric. yes, its not a great place to live, yes women do have to wear abayas, that is a bad thing about their religion, but every religion will have its faults and backwards conventions. To explain to you why devout Christians are not committing these crimes/terrors, is because they have. look no further than the KKK who tried to implement their "devout christian values", upon society, Just like ISIS is doing at the moment. So yes, while some parts of Islam is rather backwards, to say that the entire 2 billion population of them is trying to convert us all to Islam and bring down society is, in my opinion, wrong.
Debate Round No. 1
thedebater99

Con

Islam is not a religion of peace! Explain to me why orthodox Jews and Devout Christians are not perpetrating these horrendous crimes/terror? Islam is anti-homosexual and generally a very misogynist country. They stone you if you leave the "religion", are homosexual, commit adultery, or are a woman that commits minor crimes(crime is an exaggeration). Woman are FORCED to conceal their bodys all day even during times of scorching hot weather. It is miserable. All though you might claim that only a select few of people are "terrorists" within the religion, and perpetrate terror, that is false. The Islamic folks that are not willing to blow themselves up are still regressive and barbaric. They still believe in these archaic ideoligys that I reffered to above and try recede society in a quiter and less obvious way. Check out (thereligionofpeace.com) or.https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com... - derived straight from the Quran itself! Yes, Islam is an ideoligy not really a religion. I never said that it was a country if you want to re-read my first argument. As you said, there are some great muslim people. I mean obviously! I do not hate Muslims, I hate the Ideoligy of Islam. Throughout these Arab country's almost all Muslims passionately believe in Sharia laws. Which is downgrading towards woman and social minorities. Like homosexuals. Peaceful religion"??? NO WAY"
Fact: in the 1400 year history of islam, muslims have murdered over 270 million people.
Fact: Since 911, muslims have committed over 23 thousand deadly terror attacks around the world.
Fact: Islam can not and will not peacefully co exist with any other religion on earth. Never. They are intolerant of other religions
Fact: Where are all those so called "peaceful" muslims when the terror attacks occur? Why do they not stand publicly against the attacks as a religious group? The reason is that It goes against their Quran.
LHARG28

Pro

i think that you will find that yes, in in its most basic and bare form, Islam is a pretty awful religion. But then again, so is pretty much every other religion, as they were written thousands of years ago, yes they are bound to have backwards views to what we have today. But that does not mean that these people practice every single thing in that book, just as the fact that almost all christians dont practice, "You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you" Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT, or "I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent." (1 Timothy 2:12). just because it is in the bible does not mean that people still do those things if they are a christian. Just in the same way that just because people follow Islam, does not mean that they follow or practice those things anymore. so yes, in the beginning, yes Islam used to be a barbaric and backwards practice, just as many other religions of their day where, however just like many other religions, they have morphed to fit in today society. such as the Muslims who protested against the terrorism in britian. 1. this shows that Muslims can and will show support victims of terror. i once again repeat, if all 2 billion of the Islamic people cannot co-exist with other cultures, we would all be Muslims at this point.

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Debate Round No. 2
thedebater99

Con

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LHARG28

Pro

nice debate i guess
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by coconutsmatter 5 months ago
coconutsmatter
Since we are on this topic, I would like to point out a few things. Firstly, it is an undeniable fact that there have been numerous attacks on civilians commited by people who are 'Muslims'. However, these people are not upholding the values that Islam carries, and they have interpreted the Holy Quran as wanting them to be advocates of violence in the name of God. Yes, Islam does teach us to spread the word of the belief, as well as the values and reminders that pave the way to live well, but these people have assumed that by eliminating other religions, Islam will prevail and in that sense, more people might embrace Islam.

Take for example an excerpt from the bible, "15 But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your ancestors served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD." Joshua 24:15
If person A were to interpret this the wrong way, he/she may say that by this we Christians should be given a choice to believe in Christ, in God, or whomever else we wish to. But this is not the case, as person B may interpret it differently.

We should not discriminate Muslims and label them as 'aggressive' and 'violent'. There are many crimes commited, especially shootings at churches, that have not been commited by 'Muslims', but instead people from other beliefs. I feel that violence shouldn't stem from whichever belief you come from, but your innate nature to hurt and kill. Every human is born good and evil, but some people suppress their animalistic self and decide to embrace goodness, whereas there are people who not only misinterpret the peaceful teachings of their beliefs,if they do have any, but also use it as a tool to commit violence on others.
Posted by vi_spex 5 months ago
vi_spex
ban islam
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