Israeli music vs Foreign music
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MouthWash
| Started: | 5/1/2012 | Category: | Arts |
| Updated: | 1 year ago | Status: | Post Voting Period |
| Viewed: | 1,511 times | Debate No: | 23325 |
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Time for a multi-cultural debate! I will be posting Israeli songs (predominantly Mizrahi) and my opponent will be posting foreign (non-Israeli) songs in response to them. Hopefully this'll work. :D
"Mizrahi is a genre that combines elements from Europe, the West, and Middle Eastern/North African countries transported to Israel by migrating Jews." Rules: 1. I will post one "sad" song, one "upbeat" song, one "religious" song, and one "love" song. My opponent should do the same and the song style must match whatever song they are responding to (for the religious song the specific religion doesn't matter). 2. Each of my opponent's songs must be of a different region or cultural influence. What these will be is up to him/her. 3. English translated lyrics must be posted with the song. If the translating software does a bad job my opponent is given a pass. 4. Trolling is automatic forfeit. 5. First round is acceptance. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org...
I definitely accept. I await my opponent's first musical piece. |
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I thank my opponent for accepting, and hope to expand my own musical appreciation in the course of this debate. My first song is the religious one. Lyrics: If I do not raise up,
If I do not raise up Jerusalem at the head of my happiness, at the head, at the head of my happiness If I forget thee O'Jerusalem, May you forget my right arm, May my tongue wither, If I do not remember If I do not raise up, If I do not raise up Jerusalem at the head of my happiness, at the head, at the head of my happiness 3x I eagerly await my opponent's response.
I've already listened to enough western style music. So I'm going to focus on more eastern style of music (Chinese, Middle East, India, etc.) While radically different from what people are used to...it should be interesting. The earliest monotheistic religion present in the world was not Judaism. No. It was in fact, Zoroastrianism. The Zoroastrian Holy Hymns are known as the Gathas. This is the first 15 verses of the first Gatha. An extremely powerful prayer, at the very least, it should open your mind. I am not going to be able to copy and paste this into here as it is kind of long, but, if you want the text there you go: http://www.zarathushtra.com... |
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My opponent has responded with an excellent video, although since there is no consensus on when Zoroaster lived, the world's earliest monothiestic religion was likely Atenism (a variation of the Egyptian pantheon). In this round I will post the romantic song. It is called 'Off the coast of Portugal' and is considered a classic in Israel. Lyrics: I was searching for love my whole life, I traveled on a lonely ship, I crossed continents and seas, And there was no loving woman. At a small port on the coast of Portugal, By the lighthouse she waited for me, The waves brought me luck, I found by her a safe haven. And tonight I'll be back, Like a butterfly to a flower, I am her guest, This night is important, I know I found love. She took me to the alleys of the village, She said to me "Here we'll live forever, You sailed enough for me, I want a husband and not a guest." "For you, anything, my love, I'll sell the boat now, I will build you a lighthouse of love, And around it walls of gold." And tonight I'll be back ... It is Con's turn. For my next song, we shall be moving east, to India. This love song is between Shah Jahan and his wife, Mumatz Mahal. I could not find the english lyrics for this song, and since I don't speak the language, I couldn't translate by my self. Enjoy. ; |
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I thank my opponent for his reply. My song will be the upbeat and happy one, titled 'From the Sky.' Chorus: Falling from the sky like drops of water, gives me a love that tickles the soul. Lyrics: (chorus) I'm sitting by myself, waiting for you just to come and say you're mine, I want you to hug me tightly again, And not forget that a love like this comes once in a lifetime. (chorus x2) I'm yours, only yours, I fulfill all my nicest dreams with you, I want you to hug me tightly again, And not forget that a love like this comes once in a lifetime. (chorus x2) How I want you to hug me tightly, And not forget that a love like this comes once in a lifetime. From the sky... (All the lines about love are references to skydiving). I await my opponent's song. For my next piece we shall move North, to Korea. It has no lyrics :P. It just has a nice upbeat well...beat :D |
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Unfortunately, my opponent has misinterpreted what I said. I did not mean "upbeat" in the musical sense. What "upbeat" was actually supposed to mean is happy or cheerful.[http://www.thefreedictionary.com...] Perhaps I should have clarified what it was before. If my opponent wishes, he may post the happy song as well as the sad one in the final round to make up for it. The only song we have left is the sad one. It is called 'Clouds.' I hope that you will enjoy it. Lyrics: The clouds covered them, Seeing how my legs failed, My brother abandoned me when I reached out for help, When I shouted "help me, my friend." I will go back to where I was, The nights I spent in secret, My friend, the lie is not worth it, My friend, that is the story of my life. The clouds covered them, Seeing how my legs failed, My brother abandoned me when I reached out for help, When I shouted "help me, my friend." I will go back to where I was, The nights I spent in secret, My friend, the lie is not worth it, My friend, that is the story of my life. I will go back to where I was, The nights I spent in secret, My friend, the lie is not worth it, My friend, that is the story of my life. I look forward to my opponent's response. Since for some reason my opponent has objected to my use of traditional Korean music perhaps since it did not have words...I thought it was pretty upbeat as in happy..but okay. Here is my revised happy piece of music. Now my sad piece :( has no words, just very well sad...it is performed on a traditional Chinese instrument known as an Erhu. ; |
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Vote Placed by cheesedingo1 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: A good win to pro. I have never heard israeli music and was quite impressed. I enjoyed it more than the music con provided. I give pro spelling and grammar too because of the lyrics provided for the songs. Good job to both of you!
Vote Placed by 1dustpelt 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: like Pro's choices more, Pro won 3 rounds, Con won 2.
Vote Placed by 16kadams 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Didn't like the Israeli music as much.


















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