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shakuntala
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It is by comparing Deans poem to Shakespeare that we see Shakespeare is overrated-emotionless

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Started: 8/4/2013 Category: Arts
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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shakuntala

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It is by comparing Deans poem to Shakespeare that we see Shakespeare is overrated-emotionless

the thing is Shakespeare has been overrated because there has not been a poet before Dean to show just why and what is lacking in Shakespeare's poetry

SONNET 18

Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate:
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,
And summer's lease hath all too short a date:
Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines,
And often is his gold complexion dimm'd;
And every fair from fair sometime declines,
By chance or nature's changing course untrimm'd;
But thy eternal summer shall not fade
Nor lose possession of that fair thou owest;
Nor shall Death brag thou wander'st in his shade,
When in eternal lines to time thou growest:
So long as men can breathe or eyes can see,
So long lives this and this gives life to thee.

From SHAKUNTALA

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oh heartless one thy image is in my eyes
thy name on all my sighs
my hearts secrets from my lips flies
sleep eludes me
with grief I swoon with the memory of thee
my eyes my mind are forever with thee leaving me alone
once rounded my breasts droop
my waist grows thinner like sand in an hour glass
oh heartless one I waste away longing for thee
I burn with the fever of separation from thee
Oh heartless one come and to loves deliriums transport me
oh thou heartless one
the heated sighs from my lips wither the trees leaves me forlorn
the heat haze covers the earth like a shimmering shroud
relentless are my sighs driving hot winds
cracks lace river beds like open wounds
burning fires ravage glens and forests
fires roam o"er the earth shimmering like gold in the heat haze

now we see in contrast
1)
Shakespeare's sonnet is totally objective he is is just describing his love
but
Deans poem is totally subjective and is describing the emotions of the lover
this contrast shows that the sonnet is totally in his head and as a consequence lifeless like a dead fish
but Deans poem is full of emotion passion

2) The sonnet is in iambic pentameter
and Deans in a running rhythmic lyricism
this contrast shows why the sonnet is lifeless it just beats out monotonously the iambic
there is no emotion or passion in the iambic
but
Deans poem is full of fire passion because of the running rhythmic lyricism

3) the sonnets structure is flat and monotonous it gives no emotion and passion just the monotonous iambic beat
but
Deans structure of long and short lines give the feeling of the lovers state of mind a rambling state of different feelings indicated by the differeing line lengths when this is recited you enter into her emotions
but with the sonnet all you get is a lifeless monotonous iambic beat which says
nothing about the lovers feelings

4) when you recite out aloud the sonnet all you get is lifeless words strung together in a monotonous iambic beat
but
when you recite Deans poem you get emotions and passions in a running rhythmic lyricism which makes you enter into the feelings of the lover by the varying line length

one could go on
but it is with these contrasts you get to see why Shakespeare as a poet is boring lifeless and unemotional -all in his head

where Deans poetry is afire with emotion passion full of life -all in the groin
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