This is more or less a thought experiment for determinism. Con is arguing for the ability to change outcomes without information. Conditions are that you will die via a random car crashing into your home as you are watching television in 30 seconds. Upon death you are rewinded to 60 seconds before your time of death all states of the universe are reverted to their exact positions and states at that particular point in time. You do not retain any knowledge past the point of the rewinded 60 seconds. Can you break the loop?
You didn't read carefully enough. I stated that you do not retain the memories of any moment past the point that you rewwind to. Thanks for accepting this debate it's something I've thought a bit about and I'd like to hear another perspective. :) cheers.
The point is that a person does not really get to choose what they do, they make decisions based on their knowledge and experiences and a given moment in time. So no matter how many times you retry, nothing has changed that would lead you to change your actions thus resulting in your death. Every "decision" is made with a reason that can be traced to the decision makers experiences and cause and efffect relationships in their life. It isn't a matter of probability because there is no reason for your actions to change because all the stimuli and experiences stay the same so thus you make the same choices and walk the same path. I'm just wanting to know if anyone can give a reason why they could be able to change their fate.
Do you have any proof that the same person would respond differently to the same stimuli? If so, I'd like to see it. My theory is following universal cause and effect law. Since you brought up no other points I'll leave it at that.
If I was hungry I might either decide between eating a sandwich or sitting and watching TV. I stay to watch TV and the car comes and kills me. Everything the same the next time, what if I feel like getting up to get a sandwich? The outside stimuli didn't matter you thought the same thing yet you just decided differently. Like flipping a coin. What makes me say heads and the next time I could just as easily say tails.
But you can't prove that because it is never an identical situation? Any given point in time is a unique situation with unuque stimuli that consciously and unconscious affects decision making. We can only act different with new information, the neurons in my brain fired a certain way and if I rewinded time to that point and nothing has changed, why would it work any different? I feel we have kinda wasted our generous debate room so I guess we can continue in the comments if you wish.
Reasons for voting decision: Although this read more like a forum post than a debate. Pro began the debate by putting forward an overall logically sound argument and while it could have been countered con never satisfactorily addressed the argument put forward by pro, that if the same person is continuously put in the exact same situation they will essentially act the exact same way. The only defence of his position were vague statements and while the hunger argument made in round 4 was close to a rebuttal this course of reasoning was both ineffectively explained and completely dropped.
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