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noyloj
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sjps
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It is impossible to keep philosophy out of a philosophical debate

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noyloj
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/1/2013 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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noyloj

Pro

Philosophy can be very Zen, no?
sjps

Con

Well, when discussing philosophical events, you are bringing in philosophical topics into the situation,
but are you speaking them?
No. You are quoting them.

The definition of philosophy is quote "examination of basic concepts: the branch of knowledge or academic study devoted to the systematic examination of basic concepts such as truth, existence, reality, causality, and freedom". Obviously, when you read the word examine, you know that that is a verb.
An action.

When discussing/quoting philosophy, you are clearly not examining concepts, you're discussing the concept of, philosophy.
Debate Round No. 1
noyloj

Pro

Let us examine both your definition of philosophy in more depth and it's application to this argument.

Allowing that your definition of philosophy is correct, when the term examination is used, in the context of your definition, it means to scrutinize something or to check for fitness of purpose. In the context of debate we are both individually, in thought, and via a backward/forward discourse examining a concept through discussion. Discussion is not, per se, contradictory to examination and in the context of philosophical debate is at least in part the means by which examination is made. Now because we are using primarily logical means within debate to systematically analyze our arguments and because a philosophical debate is by it's nature about philosophical matters we must use examination of our concepts in order to formulate a coherent argument.

"Well, when discussing philosophical events, you are bringing in philosophical topics into the situation,
but are you speaking them?
No. You are quoting them."

Now here I must point to a logical failing in your argument, it is not at all necessary to bring philosophical topics or indeed quotes into a philosophical debate although it may be desirable to do so. In fact philosophy by it's very nature is itself amongst "basic concepts such as truth, existence, reality, causality, and freedom" both intrinsically and extrinsically.

Discussion of philosophy is therefore fundamentally a philosophical phenomena.
sjps

Con

sjps forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
noyloj

Pro

My opponent SJP having forfeited the last round may have done so for a number of reasons which include the following;

1.) Having realised the near impossibility of defending his position contrary to 'it is impossible to keep philosophy out of a philosophical debate', he has given up.

2.) By failing to communicate he is attempting to keep philosophy out of this philosophical debate.

If 1 is the case then I suppose I must be declared the victor in this debate.

If 2 is the case then he is not entering the debate and therefore his point is null. Incidentally he previously responded with rhetoric and therefore further invalidates this case.
sjps

Con

sjps forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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