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pratta3
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AMusarra
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It is possible to romantically love more than one person at once.

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Started: 2/14/2015 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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pratta3

Pro

1.) A relationship between two people which is characterized by romantic love means that it is both an emotionally and physically intimate relationship in which both people care genuinely for the well-being of the other.
2.) It is possible to be emotionally intimate with more than one person at once.
3.) It is possible to be physically intimate with more than one person at once.
4.) It is possible to care genuinely for the well-being of more than one person at once.
5.) There is no reason why the possibility statement of any of premises 2, 3, or 4 being the true reality of a scenario would exclude the possibility of either of the other two also being true. (For example, if a person is emotionally intimate with more than one person at once, it does not prevent them from also being physically intimate with or genuinely caring about more than one person at once, etc.)
6.) Because of premise 5, it is possible to be emotionally and physically intimate with and to genuinely care about more than one person at once.
7.) Therefore, it is possible to romantically love more than one person at once.

Non-controversial premises:
Premises 1, 2, 3, and 4 are non-controversial. Premise 1 is a definition which was agreed on. Premises 2, 3, and 4 are generally accepted statements and I expect that they will not be rejected.

Controversial premises:
Premises 5 and 6 are controversial. In premise 5: unless it can be demonstrated that any of premises 2, 3, or 4, if it were true, would prevent either of the others from being possible (for example if a person being emotionally intimate with more than one person at once made it impossible to genuinely care about more than one person at once, etc.), then this is a reasonable possibility claim. Premise 6 is contingent on premise 5 being true.
AMusarra

Con

1) The above definition of Romantic Love is agreed upon by both parties.
2) Although it is possible to be emotionally intimate with more than one person at once, (i) that does not prove there to be a physical relationship also, and (ii) if there are multiple persons then this emotion is not in the genuine care of the others well being.
3) Although it is possible to be physically intimate with more than one person at once, being physically intimate with multiple people does not always mean that there is an emotionally intimate feeling towards also.
4) Although it is possible to care genuinely for the well- being of more than one person at once, that does not prove the possibility of emotionally intimate nor physically intimate relations with this person. They could merely be a stranger, and you may have a general interest in the well being of all humans.
5) There is reason why the possibility statement of Pro"s premises 2,3, and 4 being the true reality of a scenario would exclude the possibility of either of the other two also being true with reasoning provided in above premises 2,3, and 4. (For example, if a person is emotionally intimate with more then one person at once, it does not exclude them from only being physically emotionally with or genuinely caring about only one person at once.
6) Because of premises 2,3,4, and 5, it is impossible to romantically love more then one person at once since all through parts agreed upon in our definition of Romantic Love ( (i) emotionally and (ii) physically intimate relationships in which (iii) both people care genuinely for the well being of the other,) is not achieved simultaneously.
7) Therefore, it is not possible to romantically love more than one person at once.

Non-controversial:
1. Agreed upon

Controversial: 2 -7
Debate Round No. 1
pratta3

Pro

(2.) Why, if you are emotionally intimate with multiple persons, can it not also be in the genuine care of those persons? It is not necessarily true that you cannot genuinely care about the same people (more than one) whom you also are emotionally intimate with.
(3.) True, being physically intimate with multiple people does not necessarily mean that there is emotional intimacy with each of those people as well, but this does not disprove the possibility that there CAN be emotional intimacy with each of them. It is conceivable for a person to be emotionally and physically intimate with more than one person at once.
(4.) Similarly, it is still conceivable for a person to genuinely care about the same people (more than one) who that person also is emotionally and physically intimate with.
AMusarra

Con

2) It would not be in the genuine care of a person to be emotionally intimate with multiple persons as it would be potentially harmful to each person one is emotionally intimate with if the others discovered the duplicity of emotional intimacy.
3) Although your statement is true that it is conceivable for a person to be emotionally and physically intimate with more than one person at once, as stated in 2, this would not show genuine caring as it is potentially harmful to each person one is both emotionally and physically intimate with if the duplicity is discovered.
4) 2 and 3 disprove that one can genuinely care about the same (multiple) people one is emotionally and physically intimate with, as 2 and 3 establish there is not genuine care since the potential discovery of physical and emotional duplicity may be damaging to those people.
Debate Round No. 2
pratta3

Pro

2) It isn't necessarily the case that a person who is emotionally intimate with more than one person is doing so deceitfully (keeping each person secret from the other person). It is conceivable for a person to be emotionally intimate with more than one person at once and for each of those people to know about and be unharmed by each other emotionally intimate relationship.
3) 2) applies here as well. It is not necessarily the case that a person who is emotionally and physically intimate with more than one person is deceiving each of those people.
AMusarra

Con

2) Even if the person is open about having multiple relationships, the nature of the human species biologically is to be monogamous. Ultimately it degrades the quality of all the relationships, whether openly accepted or in secret, to spread the emotional resources of one person between more than one love. This produces a situation where genuine care cannot be attained because this is not in the best interest of the person who is supposed being romantically loved.
3) The argument as stated in 2) also applies. Once again, it is the nature of humans to be monogamous. If there are physical multiple relationships, it may be open between the parties but it is doubtful there is not some emotion involved. This goes to the spreading out of the emotional resources of the parties which does not indicate genuine care, as it is not in the parties' best interests. Therefore, all the criteria for the definition of romantic love have not been met.
Debate Round No. 3
pratta3

Pro

1.) A relationship between two people which is characterized by romantic love means that it is both an emotionally and physically intimate relationship in which both people care genuinely for the well-being of the other.
2.) It is possible to be emotionally intimate with more than one person at once.
3.) It is possible to be physically intimate with more than one person at once.
4.) It is possible to care genuinely for the well-being of more than one person at once.
5.) There is no reason why the possibility statement of any of premises 2, 3, or 4 being the true reality of a scenario would exclude the possibility of either of the other two also being true. (For example, if a person is emotionally intimate with more than one person at once, it does not prevent them from also being physically intimate with or genuinely caring about more than one person at once, etc.)
6.) Because of premise 5, it is possible to be emotionally and physically intimate with and to genuinely care about more than one person at once.
7.) Therefore, it is possible to romantically love more than one person at once.

*Note: my initial argument stands because my opponent's points in round 3 still have not sufficiently disproved any of my argument's premises.
AMusarra

Con

1)The above definition of Romantic Love is agreed upon by both parties.
2)Although it is possible to be emotionally intimate with more than one person at once, (i) that does not prove there to be a physical relationship also, and (ii) if there are multiple persons then this emotion is not in the genuine care of the others well being.
3)Although it is possible to be physically intimate with more than one person at once, being physically intimate with multiple people does not always mean that there is an emotionally intimate feeling towards also.
4)Although it is possible to care genuinely for the well-being of more than one person at once, that does not prove the possibility of emotionally intimate nor physically intimate relations with this person. They could merely be a stranger, and you may have a general interest in the well being of all humans.
5)There is reason why the possibility statement of Pro"s premises 2,3, and 4 being the true reality of a scenario would exclude the possibility of either of the other two also being true with reasoning provided in above premises 2,3, and 4. (For example, if a person is emotionally intimate with more then one person at once, it does not exclude them from only being physically emotionally with or genuinely caring about only one person at once.
6)Because of premises 2,3,4, and 5, it is impossible to romantically love more then one person at once since all through parts agreed upon in our definition of Romantic Love ( (i) emotionally and (ii) physically intimate relationships in which (iii) both people care genuinely for the well being of the other,) is not achieved simultaneously.
7)Therefore, it is not possible to romantically love more than one person at once.

*Note: My initial argument against the viability of possibility to romantically love more than one person at once still stands due to the insufficiency of my opponents reasoning within his premises.
Debate Round No. 4
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