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yuiru
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toolpot462
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It is very unlikely that any extraterrestrial organisms would be humanoid as depicted in pop culture

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Started: 12/1/2012 Category: Science
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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yuiru

Pro

More elaborately this is an argument that it is very, dare I say extremely, unlikely that any extraterrestrial organisms found or that visit us would be humanoid in nature as depicted in popular culture and mythology/claims/ancient astronaut theorism.


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toolpot462

Con

I... accept.
Debate Round No. 1
yuiru

Pro

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First, all humanoid aliens in pop culture, are inspired by earth life and not any actual extra-terrestrial.

It would also be absurd for aliens to be primate in form as if they had common ancestory with humans.

Humanoid shape is also not the only way for intelligent life, and their is a lot of options. Extraterrestrials very well could be bilateral, multilateral, radial in symmetry, have no symmetry, be marine or winged, varying sizes also accounts for The vast selection of forms lessens probability that they would arise at the conditions to be humanoid like the popular face of greys.

And intelligent creatures, do not need to be land-dwelling, bipedal or need to develop a spoken and written vocabulary like humans. For example on our own planet, very intelligent organisms like cetaceans and cepholapods do not have any of that. Octopus have no bones, are marine, have 8 arms (better than 2) and communicate through the light spectrum rather than sound spectrum. They still use tools and have the ability to manipulate nature, learn, and precieve themselves, and they are on our own planet and nothing like us.
toolpot462

Con

Humans are most probably the first link in evolution on Earth that will come in contact with alien life. We are partially spacefaring already, and if it is possible to reach another star from this planet, humans are the most likely candidate for discovering this.

The humanoid form is simply two legs (bi-pedal), two arms, and a head. There are a great many variations of this same form. It is the best form for our environment, and the most-likely-to-arrise spacefaring form on any planet similar enough to ours, and any planets with conditions for producing life are likely very similar.

There may be myriad forms a species may arrise in, but any spacefaring species would likely come from a planet similar to ours, and therefore would likely have evolved in a similar way to humans.
Debate Round No. 2
yuiru

Pro

yuiru forfeited this round.
toolpot462

Con

toolpot462 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
yuiru

Pro

yuiru forfeited this round.
toolpot462

Con

Pro mentioned that intelligent creatures "need to develop a spoken and written vocabulary like humans." He mentions a few semi-intelligent organisms, particularly the octopus. I would say that if an octopus-like creature ever did evolve to be space faring, it would first develope land-dwelling capability, and thus legs and hands. It wouldn't need it's extra limbs, and would eventually lose them in the evolutionary chain (due to them being a hinderance).
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by toolpot462 4 years ago
toolpot462
I meant to put don't in there.
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