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jesse32
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AK-47debater
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Italian food is better than French

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/21/2007 Category: Society
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 2,932 times Debate No: 786
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jesse32

Pro

In Italy, they don't "sauce" everything. The perfect ingredients define the food. Everything in season is what is used...period. The French change all of the ingredients and think that they accomplished something great. The difference is that Italy is a kitchen and France is a laboratory.
AK-47debater

Con

In this debate, I have to prove that Italian food is not better then French food. I don't have to prove that French food is better than Italian food.

1. You state that is italian food is better, but you don't state which part is better, therefore I must assume that according to you every part of italian food is better than french food. This is not true.

2. This argument is completely opinionated. You have no evidence, just what you think. Therefore you are making invalid statements, that are generalized.
- You have no reasons accept that french food has more sauce than italian food. What if i like sauce. Does that mean that Italian food is better. Your arguments are stating your preferences. That doesn't mean that your preferences matter.
- Just because Kim Jong Il prefers korean food over chinese food, that doesn't mean he is right.

You whole argument is based on an opinion, and only one opinion, yours. Therefore your arguments are completely invalid. Also, one thing is never better than another for everyone. A good example of this is marijuana. Marijuana is bad for the general population, but can eliminate breast cancer.

As you can see, just as apples aren't better than oranges, Italian food isn't better than French food.
Debate Round No. 1
jesse32

Pro

That is intrersting. Korean food is very close to Italian food. You discovered my secret. Korean food is my second favorite in the world. Debate is not about sounding smart, its about being right, and Italy, produces the best food in the world...Beacause they go to the market first, then they purchase the most fresh ingredients. Thats the only thing they cook with. Go to Italy. Fast food does not exist. If you see one, its for the tourist. Italian food is the best food in the Uninverse...period.
AK-47debater

Con

Talk about trying to sound smart. Your arguments make no sense. You are arguing something that can't be determined. Its like saying apples are better than oranges, just because you like apples. Of course that is not true because what is better to me is not what is better to you. Therefore your argument is completely false. You can't say that one thing is better than another according to what you like.

On another note, there are 62 million people living in France and 58 million people living in Italy. As you can see there are more people who think that French food is better.

Because you argument is opinionated and doesn't make sense, and I have shown that to a point of reason, I win this debate.
Debate Round No. 2
jesse32

Pro

jesse32 forfeited this round.
AK-47debater

Con

Aparentley, you agree with me and I have convinces you that I am right. Therefore, I win this debate.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Logical-Master 9 years ago
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I must agree with the others in that AK-47 didn't truly tackle the issue. Unfortunately (not that I have anything against him), I must give this round to him as a "flawed argument" beats "no argument" any day of the week.
Posted by Mangani 9 years ago
Mangani
Debates aren't about "proving" your point. Though you may think her arguments weren't strong, the "con" didn't have an argument PERIOD. Pro made arguments in favor of his position- what you are supposed to do in a debate. Though his arguments didn't persuade everyone, they were the most persuasive. Con just attacked the idea of debating this issue, and never came up with an argument as to why Italian food in fact is not better than French food.
Posted by solo 9 years ago
solo
Mangani, I don't agree. jesse32 didn't prove why Italian is better than French. She gave excellent supporting points, but... she fizzled out. She didn't even show up for Round 3 to put her argument to bed. She didn't bring a strong enough debate to win me over.
Posted by Mangani 9 years ago
Mangani
Con did not debate the issue. What he did was attack the arguments of pro rather than actually formulate a rebuttal. You can't win a debate simply because the other person's premise is based on opinion. In logic you must present valid arguments. In debate you must present as valid an argument as your bias permits, PLUS you must persuade the audience that your point of view is the correct one- or in this case that Italian food is/isn't better than French food. I don't have an opinion on the subject myself, but based on Jesse's arguments- Italian food is better than French food.
Posted by solo 9 years ago
solo
And the win goes to AK-47debater. Good job!
Posted by AK-47debater 9 years ago
AK-47debater
that is my point, see i knew i would come through to someone
Posted by raissaguldam_cassiopeia 9 years ago
raissaguldam_cassiopeia
...this is not a debatable thing...

It depends upon your taste and perception..

hehe..gud luck to both of you..
Posted by kels1123 9 years ago
kels1123
I cant argue this :) I love Italian food :)
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