The Instigator
True2GaGa
Con (against)
Losing
14 Points
The Contender
Sky_ace25
Pro (for)
Winning
28 Points

Italians should always be considered White.

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Sky_ace25
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/3/2010 Category: Society
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (3)
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True2GaGa

Con

I would like to start by thanking whoever takes the pro side of this debate. I would like to thank them by letting them start the debate off. But, I will provide some referances to look at. I am, in fact, an Italian. I've had several people refer to me as that "white chick." I currently have my Ethenicy marked as other. I was upseted by the fact that they [debate.org] did not list Italian as a race. If I am proved wrong, I will change it to White. Otherwise, it will stay that way.
Sky_ace25

Pro

I'd like to thank GaGa for this very interesting debate topic.

For definitions I offer up the following to clarify this debate:
Italian-a native or inhabitant of Italy
White-a member of the Caucasoid race
Caucasoid-Caucasian: of or relating to Caucasian people
wordnetweb.princeton.edu

Another definition:
"A common definition of a 'white person' is a person of primarily, or wholly, European ancestry.[1] However, the term is sometimes used more broadly, so that it becomes similar to the concept of the Caucasian race or Caucasoid people, which includes people with ancestry from the Middle East, North Africa, and parts of Central, and South Asia, who share certain physiological characteristics and genetics with Europeans beyond skin color."
http://en.wikipedia.org...

To clarify this topic further I would like to first point out that the resolution doesn't imply that the person has to be 100% white, but merely be of some fraction white. Therefore a person who is 1% white can also be considered white, because by definition a white person is somebody who is "relating to Caucasian people". By definition all Italians come from Italy and thus all Italians are European. By utilizing my definition we see that Europeans are primarily white or have some portion that is white.

Therefore because all Italians are European; they all are some percentage white. The resolution does not imply that I must prove Italians are 100% white, but only that they can actually be considered as white. As all Italians can be considered as white, bare in mind here the word considered, the Pro has affirmed the resolution as of now.

I will now hand over this debate to my opponent to see her case and her rebuttal.
Debate Round No. 1
True2GaGa

Con

True2GaGa forfeited this round.
Sky_ace25

Pro

My opponent has not made a refute and thus my case still stands strong.

For voters at the moment you may vote Pro unless my opponent posts a case or counter-argument the next round.
Debate Round No. 2
True2GaGa

Con

i don't even wanna debate this anymore.

chickie chickie poo, i luv u.

just call me your italiiano chica. lol sounds better
Sky_ace25

Pro

Flattered I am yet my opponent has run out of time
To post her next line
Thus voters can easily wind
A reason to vote Pro on the next dime.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by True2GaGa 7 years ago
True2GaGa
@Zetsubou- you think i gave a good argument?
Posted by Zetsubou 7 years ago
Zetsubou
@Magini - And thats because T2GG gave such a great argument!

Sky you got vote bombed by 3 people. :0 OH NO!!!!!
Posted by True2GaGa 7 years ago
True2GaGa
@sky- lol not really
Posted by Mangani 7 years ago
Mangani
Vote bombers...

This website is based on individual integrity... not that any of you care, but if you can't be honest on a website where you don't make money, you don't get charged, and you MUST have joined because you enjoy the art of debate, you are probably not worth much in any area of life.
Posted by Sky_ace25 7 years ago
Sky_ace25
Jking =P.
Posted by Sky_ace25 7 years ago
Sky_ace25
AHHH all of her friends are ganging up on me again >.<!!!
Posted by True2GaGa 7 years ago
True2GaGa
HEY! make your own debate!!!
Posted by Mangani 7 years ago
Mangani
Obama is not Greek. Greek is a nationality, not a race. He has never claimed to not have a white mother, but it would be idiotic for his black azz to claim he is white.

It is generally frowned upon for those of half black parentage to not consider themselves black because it is usually a sign of a lack of pride for that side of their parentage, given the history of racial relations. This is not to say you are not free to label yourself as you see fit, rather an explanation that should help you not get so pissed off when people label you. I am black to everybody until I start speaking Spanish. Then they say I'm not black. That's retarded, because black isn't a race monopolized by African-Americans. I am not African-American, but I am definitely black... and proud as hell. And yes- I do have very European ancestry which is evident in my children. I am also proud of my Spanish heritage, and my Native American heritage. This doesn't make me white and/or Native American. I am black.
Posted by Koopin 7 years ago
Koopin
I guess its how you want to look at it, if you want to believe that your black, thats fine.
But scientifically you can't.
So I guess according to you I can say I'm Asian, and Obama is Greek
Posted by True2GaGa 7 years ago
True2GaGa
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

U make me sick.

what ever. ok then.

hes a smart-butt
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