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It's time Disney World cracked down on crooked cripples

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Started: 8/3/2013 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Let's say you have been waiting in line for a ride at Disney World in Florida for nearly two and a half hours and you are now at the front of the queue and just about to board when a family of wealthy English aristocrats barge in front of you.

"Get out of our way, you filthy peasants." the father, Lord de Cadent-Farquhar, barks loftily as you attempt to protest, "Can't you see that we are considerably richer than you? You should know your place and have some respect for your betters, and offer your places with good grace but you colonial savages have no concept of social deference, do you? Of course not. Now push off you snivelling little proles."

You'd be aggrieved if that happened to you, wouldn't you? And you'd expect Disney World to stop arrogant rich people who consider themselves superior to other people and too important to wait in line from pushing in, right?

And so they do, but some wealthy mothers from Manhattan have found a way to jump the queues with impunity by hiring black-market Disney cripples who pose as family members for $130 an hour, or $1,040 for an eight-hour day.

"My daughter waited one minute to get on It"s a Small World - the other kids had to wait two and half hours," boasted one rich Manhattan mom who hired a spastic in a wheelchair through Dream Tours Florida so her children could go straight to the front of the line.

"This is how the 1 percent does Disney," the mother sniffed haughtily.

According to the New York Post: "the woman said she hired a Dream Tours guide to escort her, her husband and their 1-year-old son and 5-year-old daughter through the park in a motorized scooter with a 'handicapped' sign on it. The group was sent straight to an auxiliary entrance at the front of each attraction.

"Disney allows each guest who needs a wheelchair or motorized scooter to bring up to six guests to a 'more convenient entrance'...the consensus among upper-crust moms who have used the illicit handicap tactic is that the trick is well worth the cost."

This restricted mobility racket means that ordinary kids have to wait even longer to get on the rides because all the posh kids with their disabled fake family members go straight to the front.

It's not clear to me why Disney allow people in wheelchairs to jump the queues anyway. I mean, is their time any more valuable than every one else's? No.

Also, while everybody else is standing, they are having a nice sit down, aren't they?

Furthermore, the rides tend not to be accessible to people with restricted mobility issues: when was the last time you saw a roller coaster towing a spastic in a wheelchair?

No, come on Disney World, you owe it to honest guests to close down this scam, it's time to crack down on crooked cripples.

Thank you.

Full story from New York Post:


First off I would like to start by saying I can see where you are coming from. But describing physically disabled people at theme parks like "when was the last time you saw a roller coaster towing a spastic in a wheelchair?" is a bit offensive. You need to realize that the majority of people in wheelchairs or that have such disabilities are not faking it. Having said that, all across America in nearly every parking lot there are spots specifically designated to the disabled. These spots are put specifically closer to the front because people who are in wheelchairs do not have the luxury of being able to walk to where they want to go, they are restrained to that chair. It is a demon to them. And it is more dangerous to park farther away because of the off-set chance that they are hit by a vehicle as they do not have the necessary speed as a person with fully functional legs does to avoid the car or incoming danger, or that it may be tiring to have to push such a far distance.

And the rules regarding Disney world are in place because kids with disabilities do not function as well as kids who do not. In your article it describes how "some wealthy parents" are doing this. Incidents like these are isolated and should not be taken seriously. Kids who are handicapped can bring that amount of friends because shouldn't they deserve to have fun on the happiest place on earth just as any other kid would? Don't get me wrong faking a disability is cruel, but imagine Disney security guards asking a little kid with a disability (such as cancer, diabetes, birth complications) to stand up? How do you think that would make his parents feel? Or what about a war veteran who is disabled or someone caught in a car accident being asked to stand up and prove that they are really disabled? People go to Disney world or "the happiest place on earth" to forget about all the stressers and major complications of life, not be reminded of them. And as for the isolated incidents of people faking their disabilities should be dealt with by security and Disney executives when caught, but not pick on everyone for their wrong doing. It's pretty sad that you want to start profiling handicapped children just because you don't want to wait an extra 5 minutes to ride a roller coaster.

Thank You.
Debate Round No. 1


I would like to thank thedon22 for accepting this debate and for posting his various rebuttals.

However, I should like to clarify my opening argument by clearly stating that there was never any suggestion that the cripples rich New York mothers were hiring to jump the queues at Disney World were anything other than genuine spastics.

Furthermore, I did not suggest that handicapped people, young or old, should be prevented from visiting Disney World, just that they should not be allowed to go to the front of the line for rides.

The fact is that local handicapped people in Florida have been hiring themselves out to wealthy families for big money and this fiddle cheats decent, honest families of their valuable time at Disney World, and the practice should be stamped out forthwith.

Thank you.


I used to be a resident of Florida so I know what Disney is like. And regardless of what you say, physically disabled people should not be described as "when was the last time you saw a roller coaster towing a spastic in a wheelchair?" You are clearly referring to actually disabled people. And handicapped people are allowed to go to the front of the line because they are disabled, meaning that they cannot walk, alt of them are born that way. They can't help it, it's not their fault that they are unable to walk.

Furthermore, you cannot use a few isolated incidents as an excuse to punish everyone handicapped child. The LARGE majority of children in "wheelchairs" are not faking it. They are allowed to go to the front of the line and bring friends for two reasons.

1. It may be difficult to follow in those massive lines and it is a safety hazard to them and the people around them.

and 2. At Disney or "the happiest place on earth" handicapped people get to bring friends and have an extra bump because they are handicapped, it's just a simple way to forget the world around them and help them actually have fun for a change.

But to conclude, I don't think waiting an extra five minutes to ride your favorite roller coaster will kill you. I mean after all, you are a grown man. Thank you.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by brian_eggleston 3 years ago
I wasn't being serious! By the way, is English your first language?
Posted by thedon22 3 years ago
for the last time everyone. I have ONE account.
Posted by ClassicRobert 3 years ago
Thedon12, multiaccounting is horrible conduct. If you don't get banned, I'll be surprised. Just close your other accounts and try to win debates on your own merits.
Posted by Ragnar 3 years ago
Buy a Flash Pass to barely wait, another symptom of the problem....
Posted by PiningForASilverLining 3 years ago
disney is lame as can be anyways, go to Six Flags already, buy the Flash pass, barely wait
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Reasons for voting decision: Con literally describes how wheelchairs are in fact demons, and insists the people in the parks are faking being crippled (a straw man, but once identified as not pro's claim, it becomes con's own). Yeah pro used comedy about how no one has seen rollercoasters towing crippled people; yet his points stand, that disney probably should do something about the businesses that rent out crippled people. Also conduct for the number of insults con placed into his argument, including complaining of the age difference. Sources remain tied, since pro only used a single one in his opening, yet such is in his favor (even if not enough to tip sources).