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RPollard9100
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Started: 5/2/2016 Category: Health
Updated: 7 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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jmasny6803

Pro

IVF is a beneficial way of promoting pregnancy in the health community. It gives a chance to those who can't have kids, be able to have them. Who wouldn't want to give a person willing to have a kid, but can't, a child?
RPollard9100

Con

Yes, infertility does give a chance of parenthood to those unable to have children, but this chance comes with a multitude of disadvantages to the offspring. One of these disadvantages is that the infertility of parents may be inherited by their offspring, passing on the difficulty and suffering of infertility to later generations. Who would want to put that burden on their child?
Debate Round No. 1
jmasny6803

Pro

You brought up the subject of inheritance of undesirable genes. Too combat this I would like to say that through more advanced techniques and IVF, those illnesses can be erased from the child's life. (http://www.pbs.org...)
RPollard9100

Con

These 'undesirable genes' may be able to be erased, but not without the help of other procedures and hardships. And how can you defend the social science data that suggests that donor-conceived children report struggles with identity and origin?Or the data that suggests that they fare worse than their peers in outcomes such as depression and substance abuse? IVF causes long lasting problems for offspring.
Debate Round No. 2
jmasny6803

Pro

Good response, but IVF is the future. Think about this, a virus goes around infecting many more woman than men. This virus causes blockages in the Fallopian tubes, not allowing the egg to travel down to the uterus. Boom, instant decrease in population if our birth rate is lower than our death rate. IVF may save us from this potential future disaster.
RPollard9100

Con

In order for the women to continue to reproduce, they would have to dig into the supply of sperm in sperm banks. Although a pretty smart solution, the role sperm banks play in IVF is wasteful. Because dozens of embryos are made in every singular IVF proceeds, hundreds of thousands of "unused" embryos are left over. Couples struggle with what to do with their extra embryos and, in the United States alone, there are an estimated 500,000 embryos in cryopreservation awaiting final disposition. Most likely, a lot of those embryos will never be used. How could the wasting of life be considered humane? (Aleteia, 2014)
**First round (BabyQuest on CBS, 2008) Second round (Aleteia, 2014)
Debate Round No. 3
jmasny6803

Pro

I understand that, that is a waste of good embryos, something that can't be regained unlike men and their sperm, but this is a necessary evil. I hate to bring up this topic, but abortion is kind of in the same boat to a certain degree. A fertilized embryo is being wasted through abortion, but with eggs that are stored, those are still good eggs that can be fertilized and create a beautiful human being. Even though many are wasted, many are used as well, and as this trend grows then there will be even more eggs being used. (http://www.bbc.co.uk...)
RPollard9100

Con

IVF and abortion are both evils; the embryos wasted during IVF is just the lesser of the two evils. I wouldn't say that that's a great title to have. To counteract your statement about the embryos being used... what happens when multiple embryos take and the result is multiple babies? This can be a good thing, obviously, but it significantly increases the risk of complications with the babies and the mother. Not only this, but multiple babies are hard to care for. Basically, these couples might receive 'more than they bargained for', and some may not take to that as kindly as one would wish. (FSSC, 2016)
Debate Round No. 4
jmasny6803

Pro

You bring up a good point, like the situation with "Octomom". But they can also think about alternatives, even though they are also ethical issues. For one, they can put the extra children for adoption, still pretty evil. Another option is to try the IVF one egg at a time. Also, IVF has a 30% success rate. Even though that is pretty small, the percentage to have more than one egg that holds is pretty small. Check out this website, it gives the percentages of IVF patients and how many children they have (http://invitrofertilization.weebly.com...). So IVF has all its kinks covered, if I say so myself.
RPollard9100

Con

Although slow and tedious, you do bring up a good point about trying IVF one embryo at a time. But, I unfortunately have to bring up that one round of in vitro fertilization can cost between $10,000 and $20,000, and there is no "return policy" if it doesn"t work. Soooo, unless somebody has thousands of dollars just lyin' around, that solution would prove to be a long stretch. IVF just isn't practical, or ethical, no matter how you put it. (Mama's Heath, 2013)
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