Jesus Christ loves gays.
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Gays are human
Therefore, Jesus loves gays
First, Jesus died on the cross for our sins. Taking all of man's sins onto himself.
Second, my opponent is blurring the lines between being gay and homosexual deeds. This is seen by using the word homosexuality.
"1. Sexual orientation to persons of the same sex.
2. Sexual activity with another of the same sex." 
As you can see there is great chasm between the two definitions. Now look at the word gay I used in the topic. 
"1. A person whose sexual orientation is to persons of the same sex." 
Now which one is it my opponent? The 1st or the second or both?
I have already proven God loves gays in r1. Now an argument could be made that God dislike the homosexual orientation, yet that is a red herring and irrelevant to the debate. A case could also be that God hates sexual activity with a person of the same sex, nevertheless that is also a red herring and off topic.
I conclude that my opponent's entire r1 argument is a red herring and should have no impact upon the resolution. Meanwhile I have proven that God loves gays, a person whose sexual orientation is to persons of the same sex. Thank you for the debate. May gays go to heaven.
The eighth commandment states 'thou shalt not steal, but nowhere does God say that he hates or condemns thieves. This does not prove that God loves thieves, and in fact, it is implied that he does hate and condemn them.
Another thing I would like to address is the fact that the burden of proof falls upon my opponent to prove that God loves homosexuals. His argument that God loves all, so He loves gays is a fallacy for the same reason his first argument is. It may be said that God loves all, but as you have pointed out the bible is full of double standards, this included.
Psalm 11:5, "The Lord tests the righteous and the wicked, and the one who loves violence His soul hates."
This is proof that God hates sinners. Amount these sinners we find homosexuals (or people who perform homosexual acts, as my opponent would appreciate the distinction between two things that are indeed the same).
My opponent has taken the crazy stance that God hates sinners. I rarely use the word crazy, but I think the situation merits the usage of this word. In other words, my opponent claims God hates all humans. This is because we are all sinners. One of the most famous lines Jesus says is
"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
Now if I remember correctly, nobody through a stone, meaning everyone had sinned.
Is this really what the Bible is portrayed as, a book of hate? That Jesus hated all the people who would not throw a stone, because they all sinned. I don't know why my opponent is trying to twist the words of the Lord, but I will do my best to remedy the situation.
The simple answer, no of course God doesn't hate all mankind.  I have proven that God loves mankind and shown the discrepancy between a sinner and sin. I have also shown that Jesus loves us despite our sins. Thank you for the debate.
"First, Jesus died on the cross for our sins. Taking all of man's sins onto himself." -My opponent
"In other words, my opponent claims God hates all humans. This is because we are all sinners.
Now if I remember correctly, nobody through a stone, meaning everyone had sinned." - Also my opponent
If Jesus took all of man's sins onto himself, then how could we all be sinners? My opponent's attempts to equate God hating sinners with God hating everyone is a logical fallacy within itself, but furthermore proves the double standards found within the bible and this is one of the main reasons he fails to prove his point - the bible is rife with double standards.
My opponent contradicted himself within two arguments, one right after another. His argument is therefore null because of the contradiction.
My opponent also failed to address my equating of an act with a person, nor my example of the eighth commandment. I will assume that this is because he knew it was a valid point and he had no rebuttal.
This point alone debunks his 'God loves everyone, therefore God loves homosexuals' point, as does the fact that the bible is littered with double standards which he himself proved through his own contradictory points.
Thank you to anyone following this debate. I want to thank my opponent for a good debate, barring the dramatics in his final argument.
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Vote Placed by JimShady 6 months ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Stupidape makes a point backed by evidence: since God loves everyone, and everyone is inclusive of homosexuals, then that means he loves homosexuals. TheOneAndOnlySinner fails to prove that God hates them, saying that it is "inferred." Also, it's worthy to note that even though the Bible seems to be full of double standards, it is not. The Bible is open to interpretation. Bible verses were used by both sides, but ultimately, TheOneAndOnlySinner's verses don't PROVE that God hates gay. Once again, he says that they infer that God does. Also, you have full rights to be in this debate, OneAndOnlySinner... however, I think you, being an atheist, can always just say God doesn't exist, therefore he doesn't love anyone. Good job to both of you, but better to Stupidape.
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