The Instigator
JustCallMeTarzan
Pro (for)
Winning
47 Points
The Contender
kevsext
Con (against)
Losing
7 Points

Jesus Was Probably Not Born on 12/15 and in the Year 0.

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JustCallMeTarzan
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/27/2009 Category: Religion
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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JustCallMeTarzan

Pro

The proposition on offer is that Jesus was probably not born on December 25 in the year 0. Since this is a conjunct, you can attack the resolution stating that he was born on 12/25 or that he was born in the year 0.

Reasoning:

1) The Bible makes no mention on the date of Jesus' birth.

2) There is no historical record of a bright star in the year 0.

3) The selection of December 25 does not have a Christian basis.

4) The selection of 12/25 is based on various Babylonian and Roman mythologies, as well as the fact that December 25 is one of the first days after the winter solstice that one can notice a change in the length of the day.

Furthermore, the only celestial event that would cause such mistaken reasoning was the occulation of Venus and Jupiter in 2 BC... in the middle of the summer. As suggested by one of the references below, a much better approximation for the date of Jesus' birth is June 17, 2 BC (6/17/-2).

AFFIRMED

B.G. Walker, "The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets"
http://www.theinquirer.net...
kevsext

Con

you know what, your exactly right.
Debate Round No. 1
JustCallMeTarzan

Pro

What the deuce - extend all arguments.

Con has conceded. Debate over.

AFFIRMED.
kevsext

Con

NO!

Jesus was born on 12/15 in the year o for the following reasons:

1) I said so.
2) The bible says so.
3) you suck
4) Michael Moore was illiterate until the age of 17
5) (see number 1)
6) I attended his 7th birthday party and guess what? It was on 12/15

BONG!
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by RoyLatham 8 years ago
RoyLatham
The 12/15 was such an obvious typo I didn't think it was worth mentioning. I guess typos count against spelling and grammar, but they shouldn't be counted as part of the meaning of the debate. I might feel differently if I didn't make typos myself ....
Posted by JustCallMeTarzan 8 years ago
JustCallMeTarzan
Rob, I suppose technically yes, but it was clarified in my opener:

"The proposition on offer is that Jesus was probably not born on December 25 in the year 0. Since this is a conjunct, you can attack the resolution stating that he was born on 12/25 or that he was born in the year 0."
Posted by Rob1Billion 8 years ago
Rob1Billion
well the funny thing is I was gonna say something a while back but I figured I was missing something and I was just going to make an a** out of myself. Bible study isn't exactly my specialty... Does this mean your argument is absolutely indestructible? Who can possibly show that the Messiah (Jesus, not Obama) was born on the 15th?
Posted by kevsext 8 years ago
kevsext
(joke)
Posted by kevsext 8 years ago
kevsext
just cool it with the antisemitic remarks or I'll report you.
Posted by JustCallMeTarzan 8 years ago
JustCallMeTarzan
Meh - it's a typo - I can't believe nobody else caught that :)
Posted by kevsext 8 years ago
kevsext
yeah I was gonna say the same thing. I think Pro is a little special.

nah im joshin he probably just made a typo
Posted by Rob1Billion 8 years ago
Rob1Billion
I was wondering why the title says the fifteenth, and not the twenty-fifth. Was that just an error or did I miss something
Posted by I-am-a-panda 8 years ago
I-am-a-panda
Whoever gave CON 7 points should burn in hell. Even God spits on "CON's arguments"
Posted by JustCallMeTarzan 8 years ago
JustCallMeTarzan
Wow...
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