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marcelorodriguez
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Marauder
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Jesus was not born on December 25.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/26/2012 Category: Religion
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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marcelorodriguez

Pro

Jesus was not born on December, much less on December 25. The description of the time of Jesus's birth does not match up with the description of the time of December in the Holy Bible. Therefore, December 25, more commonly referred to as Christmas, isn't the day of the birth of Baby Jesus.
Marauder

Con

I once heard in a debate on abortion between christians a pro-lifer argue this "In the bible does it say 'and the angle of the lord came to them and said 'behold thou art with fetus!', no it does not it says 'thou art with child'. even the bible recognizes that while still in the womb its a child."

So the question must be asked, when is your true 'birth date'? is it the day you finally got to breath air, or is it the day you are concieved?

for purposes of this debate I will only refer to 'birth' in one of two forms. the 'carnal birth' and 'True birth'. Carnal Birth is the birth of combing out of the womb, and True birth is the day of your conception.

and intrestingly enough while you could argue jesus carnal birth may have been some time during the fall, the day of his conception can almost be traced exactly to December 25th.
http://www.keyway.ca...
http://www.hebrew4christians.com...

It was indeed on the 25th that the Holy Spirit decended upon Mary and blessed her to carry baby jesus inside and to let him start to grow in the body he would one day willingly sacrifice for all of us. It was on the 25th of december the three wisemen that believed in Zoroastrianism saw the signs in the stars that matched with prophoceys that there religions founder, Zoroaster, got from Daniel concerning Daniels messiah. So they started there jurney to Juresalem seeking him out, a journey that takes them 4 years to complete.

http://www.messageland.org...

Thus Jesus was clearly TRUELY born/concieved right about on December 25.
Debate Round No. 1
marcelorodriguez

Pro

marcelorodriguez forfeited this round.
Marauder

Con

My oppoenent closed his account. I win
Debate Round No. 2
marcelorodriguez

Pro

marcelorodriguez forfeited this round.
Marauder

Con

"I'm a king in a land of abuses
Undermined by the promise for excuses
Whos to win if we know that its not fair
who would fight when it seems that no one cares

sometimes we need to WAKE UP!

Let us love
Like we were Children
Give us time
To beat the system
Make us feel
Like were still Living
In a world I know is burning to the ground."
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Marauder 4 years ago
Marauder
crap my opponent closed there account.
Posted by Ron-Paul 4 years ago
Ron-Paul
It was easier than I thought.
Posted by philochristos 4 years ago
philochristos
Good luck finding an opponent for this one!
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Reasons for voting decision: It's because of the decree of Constantine...but you win anyway.