The Instigator
DanielChristopherBlowes
Pro (for)
Winning
11 Points
The Contender
emospongebob527
Con (against)
Losing
3 Points

Jewishness is both a race and a religion.

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DanielChristopherBlowes
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/5/2012 Category: Religion
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (4)
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DanielChristopherBlowes

Pro

Jewishness is both a race and a religion; you can be born Jewish and not practice Judaism.
emospongebob527

Con

Jewishness? You say.

State your case.
Debate Round No. 1
DanielChristopherBlowes

Pro

I will use one example to prove my position; a living person who is Jewish and does not practice Judaism:

Woody Allen.

Wikipedia: "his family was Ashkenazi Jewish" and makes no mention of him practicing Judaism.

My opponent must EITHER show that Woody Allen is not Jewish OR does, in fact, practice Judaism.

Failure to do so proves that they are separate entities entirely.
emospongebob527

Con

emospongebob527 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
DanielChristopherBlowes

Pro

I will use one example to prove my position; a living person who is Jewish and does not practice Judaism:

Woody Allen.

Wikipedia: "his family was Ashkenazi Jewish" and makes no mention of him practicing Judaism.

My opponent must EITHER show that Woody Allen is not a Jew OR does, in fact, practice Judaism.

Failure to do so proves they are separate entities entirely.
emospongebob527

Con

emospongebob527 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
DanielChristopherBlowes

Pro

As above.
emospongebob527

Con

Conozco a una muchacha guapa que es la mas bonita de la escuela. Todos los estudiantes se burlan de ella porque se llama Fea. Asi que Fea se queda en casa todos los dias. Los estudiantes maltratan a otro estudiante tambien. Es el mas inteligente de la clase. Todos los estudiantes se burlan de el porque se llama Tonto. Los dos, Tonto y Fea, se quedan en casa todos los dias. Un dia, Fea va al supermercado para comprar espinacas porque a ella le encantan las espinacas. Tonto va al supermercado para comprar peras. A el no le gustan los vegetales, especialmente las espinacas. En el supermercado, Fea conoce a Tonto y le dice: "Hola, yo soy Fea".
-Tonto le responde: "Senorita, tu no eres fea".
-Fea le responde a el: "Si, soy Fea, y por eso me quedo en casa todos los dias".
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by seeking_understanding 2 years ago
seeking_understanding
I would say ethnicity
not race

Otherwise they would not have done genetic studies on the Ethiopian Jews who currently reside in Israel.
These studies prove a genetic similarty between jews.
The only problem is the fact that "Jew" is a word for both
Ethnicity/race and Religion
Posted by DanielChristopherBlowes 4 years ago
DanielChristopherBlowes
So you admit Woody Allen is Jewish.. Now, does he practice Judaism?
Posted by Luggs 4 years ago
Luggs
According to Judaism, which I will remind you that I am a member of, if you were a Jew at any point in your life, you are considered Jewish to synagogues. However, this does not mean that you must practice Judaism in order to be a Jew. Anyways, you kinda need a definition for the word "race", since you have provided no argument of any kind saying that Judaism is a race. It is certainly a religion, but not a race.
Let me give you an example: I myself am Jewish, as I have mentioned. That means my religions is Judaism, but I am a white person. Therefore, my race is White. According to the Wikipedia page, I can see clearly that he is the same. A white, Jewish male.
Posted by DanielChristopherBlowes 4 years ago
DanielChristopherBlowes
So Woody Allen is not a Jew then? His whole career is based on this premise!
Posted by Luggs 4 years ago
Luggs
Uh, no. As a Jew, I can confirm that my Judaism is not my race. Race can not refer to a man's religion, which is the only thing Judaism really is. A religion.
Posted by DanielChristopherBlowes 4 years ago
DanielChristopherBlowes
Not sure I follow you at all.. Christianity isn't a race, being a Jew is.. It's also a religion.
Posted by Luggs 4 years ago
Luggs
This is a fail argument. Pro can make the same argument against Christianity (BTW, it's Judaism). You do not need to practice a religion to be considered part of that religion. For example, most atheists were born into a religion, however, they no longer practice it, and instead believe that a god does not exist. Con is going to win this by far.
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Vote Placed by AlwaysMoreThanYou 4 years ago
AlwaysMoreThanYou
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Reasons for voting decision: Counter votebomb emj32, as well as my own four points (3 for arguments, since Con failed to really respond, 1 for conduct since Con forfeited repeatedly)
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro wins conduct via FF, and wins arguements considering that Con never refutted and in English.
Vote Placed by emj32 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: I've never seen a sponge quite as emo