Jill Stein would make a better president than Bernie Sanders
I believe Jill Stein would make a better president than Bernie Sanders, by
- using more economically productive methods for wealth reallocation,
- addressing human rights more expansively throughout the globe, and
- taking stronger, more efficient measures to curb and adjust to climate change.
This broad topic need not be limited to these bullets, I am simply providing ground on which we can begin.
If you do not meet the debate's requirements, I am happy to override them after you demonstrate in the comments section that you can take the topic seriously.
My thanks in advance,
~ Brant M.
I would like to note, that "better" is subjective.
Better as her ideals are "better" or that she will get more of the ideals done. (i.e. would she be a better unilateral leader or a president).
are we taking for the discussion that those ideals you mentioned are good or are they debatable?
Are they at least debate for the extent that she will be a better president "While that is good, that amount is not good"
I look forward to this debate.
A basic premise of the concept of "persuasion" is that a subjective metric is still a metric. Therefore if not for subjectivity, why have debates? I will not define "good president" any further.
he wants to tax it then use that money to fund things like national healthcare. that isn't re instituting it into society, because it is not within the publics hands.
although your point is great and I wish more people understood that.
Bernie also wants to change the tract where new income goes to by increasing the minimum, thereby, instead of taking form one and giving to another as your propose, he simply wants to change the channels it takes, thereby changing who receives the income.
Hoarded wealth *currency.*
It’s easy to imagine that a broken machine simply needs to be refueled, but our health system is already stumbling over its own size, which is how we spend more per-capita to live shorter lives than other developed nations.
Wealth inequality, health, and resources are interconnected. Sanders is strongly motivated to solve them, but passion does not solve a puzzle. The Green platform spells out a multi-faceted approach to making complementary improvements in each category, which is why a Stein agenda can solve problems more effectively than a Sanders one.
theseus23 forfeited this round.
Let us consider the Green Platform's Chapter III-D (Transportation) :
Actually one of the reasons we spend more per-capita to live is from crony capitalism. From the money in politics that for example, in medicare the government is not allowed to negotiate for lower drug prices (which is ridiculous). that's one reason it costs so much, and because with a socialist healthcare system the doctors are limited in what they can and can't give you. For example, if you go to the hospital for a broken toe, often the Dr. will say well it might be infected, take these antibiotics, lets also run this exam etc. etc. This is what causes prices to skyrocket. Jill Stein instead want's every single health issue covered, this would cost way more with basically a blank check. Doctor's would prescribe even more. Similarly how college charge more because students have un limited loans.
please link to her platforms.
I've mostly advocated for the Green platform, which I linked to in the previous round. But I'm happy to link to Stein's platform.
This in mind, it seems ironic that con's rebuttal should be a reference to crony capitalism. The need for reigning in crony capitalism is a starting premise for all Greens.
My choice of Greens over (socialist) Democrats is that they economically ground themselves according to resources, rather than regarding currency as the resource.
I appreciate con accepting this debate. I recommend the forfeiture ignored by our audience, because I believe time constraints should have a weekly option, to encourage participation for debaters who work more than 40 hours a week. It's a busy economy with no rest for the wicked until we close our eyes for good.
This topic deserves more time, characters, rounds, and debates.
My thanks again,
~ Brant M.
I think you misunderstand Bernie's platform, though he incorrectly used the term democratic socialist, that is not what is platform is.
Let us begin by stating probably around 50% of the two platforms are identical. break up big banks etc. However, although Jill Stein is brilliant, she hasn't put out nearly the planes Bernie has, leading me to believe he would make a better president.
What is her tax policy? How will she pay for medicare for all? In her medicare for all, everything is covered, including abortions for any reason. that is one example of something that is ordinarily not covered in medicare for all making it vastly more expansive than other countries.
Students have accumulated trillions of dollars of student debt, that they have willingly acquired. How will she pay to have this debt taken care of, and why? why not car/home loan debt?
Jill Stein needs more detail.