Judaism (Pro) vs Christianity (Con):
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There are many issues with this, the first being that Jesus wasn't the Messiah, he fit none of the Messianic prophecies except two types: prophecies that are really out of context verses and not messianic prophecies at all, and messianic prophecies so general that almost anyone could fit them.
Let's examine the first, for example, Christians say that Micah 5:2 is a prophecy that the Messiah will come from Bethlehem, but if you look at the chapter in context, it isn't a Messianic prophecy at all, it was a prophecy that a great general would come from Bethlehem and smite the enemies of the Jews, it was already fulfilled. Even if it was a Messianic prophecy, Jesus didn't fulfill it because he wasn't a general.
Another example is that Christians use Isaiah 53 to say that the Messiah would die for the sins of the world, but if you look at this chapter, you will notice that it isn't referring to the Messiah, and even if it was, Jesus didn't fulfill it!
Was Jesus sickly and ill? Isaiah 53:3.
Did Jesus have children? Isaiah 53:10.
Did Jesus live a long life? Isaiah 53:10.
Was Jesus rich? Isaiah 53:12.
For the second type, Christians use verses that say that the Messiah will be a Jew, tat he would be born of a woman, that he would die, that he would die a violent death, there are 18 million Jews, everyone was born of a woman, everyone is going to die, and there are so many people that have died a violent death, none of them are the Messiah.
Furthermore, the means of forgiveness are wrong also, according to the Christian doctrine, Christians are going to heaven no matter how wicked they are, but non Christians are going to hell no matter how righteous they are. This is completely nonsensical, in fact there is a Torah verse that directly addresses this:
"Look, all lives belong to me " both the parent"s life and the child"s life are equally mine " so it is the person who sins, himself, who must die."
This addresses two Christian doctrines, the one I mentioned earlier, as well as G-d punishing Jesus for our sins, there is another verse that discredits to these two doctrines also,
"He who justifies the wicked and he who condemns the righteous are both alike an abomination to the LORD."
The Christian doctrine teaches that G-d would send the righteous to hell because of their creed, but allow the wicked into heaven because of their creed, as well as punish Jesus (someone innocent according to Christian doctrines) to acquit the wicked (us according to Christian doctrines), G-d would not do this because G-d would not commit an abomination.
\Furthermore, Christianity teaches that you achieve forgiveness by believing in Jesus, not good deeds, this goes directly against what the Torah says in Ezekiel 18:21-23:
"However, if the wicked person repents of all the sins he committed, keeps my laws and does what is lawful and right; then he will certainly live, he will not die. 22 None of the transgressions he has committed will be remembered against him; for the righteousness that he has done, he will live. 23 Do I take any pleasure at all in having the wicked person die?" asks Adonai Elohim. "Wouldn"t I prefer that he turn from his ways and live?"
If you see Ezekiel 18:22 specifically, it says "None of the transgressions he has committed will be remembered against him; for the righteousness that he has done, he will live," this says that the wicked will be forgiven and live "because of the righteous things they have done," not because of faith.
I have provided proof for my claims, you simply stated that you cannot defend your beliefs anymore because I have proven them wrong, but it is ME who has a hard head and is being stubborn, stop with the backward logic.
Do you understand?
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Vote Placed by logicinlife 11 months ago
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