The Instigator
Solarman1969
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The Contender
solo
Con (against)
Winning
31 Points

KAUAI is the BEST ISLAND IN THE WORLD! (at least the Hawaiian Islands) : )

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/17/2008 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 1,357 times Debate No: 1922
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Solarman1969

Pro

I figured since I am puttin out my beloved Island as my pic

I might as well defend her

from any that may argue

that KAU'A'I is not

No Ka 'Oi !

THE BEST !

KAUAI MAN
solo

Con

Kauai is NOT the best island in the world. (Nor are the Hawaiian Islands the best in the world.) I personally LOVE the islands of Samoa much more and they are all way better than Kauai, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that they're the best in the world. I've been to Kauai. It's not that impressive. Perhaps you can give me tell me why you think Kauai is the best.

Thank you.
Debate Round No. 1
Solarman1969

Pro

Kauai is #1 bacause

a) it is in the Hawaiian chain

the Hawaiian islands are the most remote in the world and unique insmuch as the they are the newest island

b) Kauai is the oldest in the chain, and was SO BIG when it was formed 25,000,000 years ago, that it is STILL as big as O'ahu.

Kauais natural features

Incredible beaches

Incredible waves

the Na Pali Coast - with a least 5 sandy beaches to land on that can ONLY be accessed by boat (Kalalau is reachable by an 11 mile incredible cliff trail)

Waimea Canyon- the grand canyon of the pacific

Waialeale - the wettest spot on earth, surrounded by an impenetrable rainforest (unless youre a nut) with unique species only to Kauai

Kauais also the good ole USA and thus there are KILLER

hotels restuarants etc

also

there are gazillions of fruit trees all around dripping with fruit

I miss my paradise! : (

ALOHA

Kau'a'i man
solo

Con

< a) it is in the Hawaiian chain>>

Yes, but you the Hawaiian chain aren't the best in the world.

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But these points do not make Kauai "the BEST IN THE WORLD!"

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You just argued that the Hawaiian islands were the newest, indicating that that was a reason that made them "the BEST". If that is so, then Kauai being "the oldest in the chain" is obviously not the newest and therefore not the best, by way of your own argument.

You may have had a slam dunk of a debate had you posted:
KAUAI is the BEST ISLAND IN THE WORLD, to me!
...but you didn't. Kauai is, no doubt, the best island in the world to you, but that isn't the case for me. Samoa is the best island in the world. It is a matter of opinion and not everyone is going to agree with either of us.

You have one round left to prove why Kauai is the BEST ISLAND IN THE WORLD! I suggest you not waste it.
Debate Round No. 2
Solarman1969

Pro

you adressed NONE of my specific point about the incredible beauty of Kauai

and gave me NONE for Samoa, which I know to be beautiful island as well

but KAUAI is the best!

the best beaches!

the best waves!

the best shells!

the best rainforest!

NO KA OI!
solo

Con

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Yes, because they were irrelevant. There are many other Pacific Islands that share similar examples of beauty, but you haven't explained what makes Kauai the BEST ISLAND IN THE WORLD! It's beautiful, but you didn't explain what makes it more beautiful than any other island, thus making it "the BEST".

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Samoa isn't the subject of the debate. Just a point of reference in my argument.

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To you, but not to me and many others.

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You didn't post any links to support this claim. I think beaches in the South Pacific are far more breath-taking than Kauai's.

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Again, no links. Just your testimony, and I'm sure there are surfers that would disagree with you there.

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Once again, I'm sure many would disagree.

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I'm pretty sure most of the Earth thinks the South American rainforest is the best, as it produces the majority of the planet's oxygen supply.

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Fa'afetai tele!
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by solo 9 years ago
solo
I appreciate your spirit, Solarman! Have a great weekend!
Posted by Solarman1969 9 years ago
Solarman1969
wrong

you need to come up with a more beautiful and magic Island than the paradise of kauai to win this debate

I dont care what the vote says

KAUAI NO KA OI!
Posted by anwermate 9 years ago
anwermate
its good that youre adaptable and flexable solo, thats what'll allow you to win debates
Posted by Solarman1969 9 years ago
Solarman1969
KAUAI IS STILL NO KA OI!

name a better island_______________________

you cant !
Posted by solo 9 years ago
solo
I now understand how your deliberation works. Thank you! I will try to keep that in mind with my future arguments. Thanks for the feedback!
Posted by anwermate 9 years ago
anwermate
ok, i definitely get what youre saying, and youre right that you dont need offense, but its very hard to vote on defense. Its probably just the way that i view debate. For example i see the debate round starting with the aff winning the round on presumption, and it is the negs burden of rejoinder to make the aff lose by knocking out one on the legs from underneath it making it fall. So let me make another analogy here, i saw this debate round as (sorry for the dumb comparison, but just hang with me here) two planes in a dog fight. First the aff plane is in the air and fires some shots at the neg, this being you accepting the debate and solarman presenting his claims. Then you fire some bullets back, but the exact same amount of bullets that solarman fires, just canceling everything out. then he fires some back, then you do too, but everything just cancels in the air. i guess what im looking for is someones plane getting hit and falling out of the sky, signifying the other as the winner. In this debate no one fell, therefore by the way i see debate, if the aff is left flying then he/she wins.
Posted by solo 9 years ago
solo
anwermate, I didn't need to mount an offense, as I only had to disprove that Kauai is the best island in the world. And since his argument was based solely on his opinion, it didn't warrant more than I gave. Thanks for voting though! It is appreciated.
Posted by anwermate 9 years ago
anwermate
Solo didnt have a single offensive argument, everthing he said was defensive, therefore not really proving why it isnt the best, and while this is a totally opinionated topic, solo didnt really do any work till his last speech where it was too late for solarman to answer. So even with all my disagreement with solarman, i actually have to vote for him.
Posted by Solarman1969 9 years ago
Solarman1969
KAUAI IS AWESOME

GO VISIT SOMETIME

ALOHA!

KAUAI MAN aka SOLARMAN
Posted by RepublicanView333 9 years ago
RepublicanView333
I don't get how Solarman didn't win...he gave great reasons why Kauai is the best and all solo said was...no its not...in retrospect...Solarman definitly gave the best arguement
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