Kanye west is better than any Greek tragedian.
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Wikipedia states that a catharsis is a sudden emotional breakdown or climax that constitutes overwhelming feelings of great pity, sorrow, laughter, or any extreme change in emotion that results in renewal, revitalization. Listening to Kanye Wests fifth LP "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy", one can quickly get the idea that Mr. West tried to achieve the same thing - to make people feel.
So let's go with that:
If we throw away all bias and prejudice based on the fact that most Greek tragedy (let's say, for example, Sofocles' Antigone) is academically valued and appreciated and MBDTF(My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy) is not, we end up comparing them on the ground of evoking emotions, a catharsis.
Antigone may be relevant today as much as it was in the Greek times (and will continue to be for a long time) in field of motifs and ideas, but bringing up feelings is where it falls flat. The world has simply changed too much for the ancient Greek bringers of catharsis to remain as powerful as they were. MBDTF, on the other hand, was one of the most emotionally "powerful" albums I have ever listened to, and I strongly believe I'm not alone in this.
It does, in whole, convey such powerful sense of emotion, the feeling that you are a different person than an hour ago when you hear the last words on "Who Will Survive In America"
Kanye West is the Sartre of our generation.
I judge art on the grounds of what the artist themselves were trying to accomplish. In this case of tragedies it is evoking a CATHARSIS.
My beautiful dark twisted fantasy is a wonderful example of a modern tragedy and is easily comparable in this subject.
Furthermore, how exactly do you *know* that the greek plays did not evoke as much of a catharsis as Kanye's music does? We do not have many records of greek history in this regard, so a more indirect approach to finding out the emotions of the greeks is required. The greeks were so heavily affected by the stories of the time that they based their religion around them. The ironic cruelty of Orpheus' curiosity getting the better of him was so powerful to the greeks that they built it into their very culture and daily life. They worshipped these gods, each of whom caused immense pain and joy to the victims of their stories, both out of respect and out of fear. The power of these stories reverberated enough inside of every greek at the time that they actually revered the powerful figures they had made for themselves in the stories. Even today, millions read and re-read the tales of tragedy and heroism from back then. Only one state could be powerful enough to keep one being drawn back in for more, and that mental state is catharsis.
You could say that the greeks were just as effective as anyone today at evoking emotion.
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