The Instigator
Kleptin
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Winning
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The Contender
Tatarize
Con (against)
Losing
21 Points

Kleptin should be the winner in the following debates.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 9/14/2008 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 1,668 times Debate No: 5390
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Kleptin

Pro

I saw Britwaller doing this and I heard that it was being done by other people too, so I figured I should give it a shot :)

I have taken on a habit of arguing for positions I disagree with just for the sake of arguing. I find that this hones debate and critical thinking skills much better than just arguing for what you believe in. However, on the old site, it was much more habitual to vote instinctively on what position is most popular rather than quality of the debate. In the following debates, I believe that this is what led to my losses, and that if debate quality were taken into account, I should be the winner hands down.

1. http://www.debate.org...

Debate on Walmart. This was one of my first debates and one in which I realized how the voting system could be manipulated. I not only offered strong counterpoints to each and every one of my opponent's issues, forcing him to come up with new ones each round, but also gave plenty of points that were not responded to. In addition, the comments section is filled with spam, showing that whoever voted probably did not care enough to read the debate.

2. http://www.debate.org...

Debate on Age of Earth. I believe i did a much better job presenting my case and debating, especialy since my opponent FORFEITED a round x.x

3. http://www.debate.org...

Debate on Affirmative Action. I believe that in trying to fight for a position I disagreed with, I found a very good counterargument to my opponent. Since this is a single round debate, just one strong counterpoint should ensure the win.

4. http://www.debate.org...

Here is another debate semi-off to the side. In my opinion, this is just ludicrous. 2 round debate, my opponent made an opening statement and forfeited his last round, yet I still lost.
Tatarize

Con

Kleptin should not be the winner of those debates. Because then he would score higher than me on the profile charts. Already he's winning two of the three debates because he posted his comment here and readvertised his debating prowess. This type of I should have won X debates debate is just going to encourage people to post their debates for further review. It will be a plague like those damned numbers debates. I mean you don't see me whining about the debates I should have won!

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Biblical proof-texts for the Trinity are not proof-texts at all. My opponent graciously and deliberately conceded the point and admitted I was exactly correct. "Congrats to my friend, he clearly won as the topic was defined." And I'm LOSING! REALLY?!?
http://www.debate.org...

If all faiths are given the chance, public displays of faith are constitutionally acceptable., "I fear for the future of humanity if I concede defeat in an argument and I still win." -- My opponent conceded. I'm currently losing!
http://www.debate.org...

Losing Bread is related to everything, which I certainly should win.
http://www.debate.org...

The idea of Intelligent Design is a product of religion, not science... which if you actually read my very long and very nuanced debate I did a far better job than my opponent.
http://www.debate.org...

Adam & Woman, the first humans, are innocent victims of a confidence trick, which my opponent didn't even have a coherent argument for.
http://www.debate.org...

Like Father Like Son: God's Relationship with Jesus Christ, which I'm apparently losing for pointing out that the non-existence of God makes me win.
http://www.debate.org...

fixed rules don't exist for theoretical absolute minimum for things to believed for salvation, I should have won due to pointing out that every religion does have fixed rules. Although, I think there just wasn't enough people to vote.
http://www.debate.org...

It would better if women had 3 breasts as opposed to 2! I swear, people say breasts and people say the more the better without regard for the arguments at hand.
http://www.debate.org...

Christianity is the most inclusive faith, despite the fact that it is accused of being exclusive., I should have won with just the word Buddhism.
http://www.debate.org...

The First Amendment of the US Constitution guarantees freedom from religion., my opponents confusion of the topic shouldn't negate my arguments in favor of the topic.
http://www.debate.org...

Of the same name, I clearly won due to my opponents arguments being poop on a stick.
http://www.debate.org...

The theory of evolution is compatible with mainstream religion, I think this one was close and is worth a read. I daresay it was an uphill battle and I fought quite well.
http://www.debate.org...

The validity of the Miller-Urey Theory, I have no idea how I am losing this one. I feel I won on every point but too few people understand the underlying science and thus too few people voted.
http://www.debate.org...

"In God We Trust" on the currency is unconstitutional and should be removed, I debated several of these and my opponent missed a round, still got trounced, but somehow has more votes. WTF?
http://www.debate.org...

Similarly, this one of the same name. I swear I should have won it.
http://www.debate.org...

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This one I'm not losing by enough. Worth a laugh.
http://www.debate.org...
Debate Round No. 1
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Posted by Tatarize 8 years ago
Tatarize
I expected to lose the debate but more than make up for it by getting votes on some of my more neglected debates. In fact, my plan was clearly so completely brilliant that I should win this debate too. *smirk*
Posted by Logical-Master 8 years ago
Logical-Master
Extend my comments from other comment sections in response to that, grievous.
Posted by Kleptin 8 years ago
Kleptin
I'm hot :P
Posted by Rezzealaux 8 years ago
Rezzealaux
B-b-b-b-ut Kleptin has Kallen as an avie.

HOW CAN I VOTE DOWN KALLEN Dx
Posted by Logical-Master 8 years ago
Logical-Master
WOW! Tat's wins went up to 78. The last time I did something like this, people voted me down on the debates I had posted.
Posted by brittwaller 8 years ago
brittwaller
Had to vote PRO here. Kleptin should have won those debates. Tatarize could be right about "the infection," but it was awfully crafty of him to say that and then add his own should-have-won's:)
Posted by Kleptin 8 years ago
Kleptin
I wonder by how much I just singlehandedly brought Tatarize's stats up by XD
Posted by brittwaller 8 years ago
brittwaller
I will take your argument on quality and apply it to my debates concerning our debate. Ha ha! Either way I will probably still lose.
Posted by Rezzealaux 8 years ago
Rezzealaux
Hau abaut kureputin = 100% win reishiou?
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