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artC
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CaptainTrips
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Kurt Vonnegut is the underestimated great writer of our time.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/25/2007 Category: Arts
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 2,963 times Debate No: 983
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artC

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I will start by saying, Kurt Vonnegut is understated because I can say his name and not everyone will know who I'm talking about.

I say he is great because he has written classics such as Slaughter House-Five and Cat's Cradle.
CaptainTrips

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I can say the name Shakespeare and there are still some people who do not know who I am talking about, so what?

Also, you can't call a writer underestimated and than claim that he has written classics, underappreciated writers don't have timeless classics that everyone knows about, like Slaughterhouse-Five. The entire idea behind being underestimated is that people DON'T know about your work.

Vonnegut is widely known and revered and the entire literary community aknowledged a very important loss when he died. Also, many of his books have been turned into movies, although unsuccessfully, this shows he is not below the radar.

Vonnegut is an American institution and a very widely regarded literary figure, he isn't the underestimated great writer of *our* time, he's one of the most widely regarded great writers of the last like 40 years, the writers of *our* time haven't really emerged yet.

Also, just naming two novels doesn't prove anyone is great, some people don't even like those two.
Debate Round No. 1
artC

Pro

Thanks for your reply.

To be totally honest I just really want to talk about how great Kurt Vonnegut is so I decided to make up a BS debate.
CaptainTrips

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CaptainTrips forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
artC

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So does anyone want to talk about how wonderful of a writer kurt vonnegut is?
My opponent maybe? You did present a good argument.
CaptainTrips

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CaptainTrips forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by JackBauerPower 9 years ago
JackBauerPower
Thank you, its good to be back
Posted by brittwaller 9 years ago
brittwaller
Good to have you back, Jack.
Posted by JackBauerPower 9 years ago
JackBauerPower
Don't talk about me behind my back.
Posted by artC 9 years ago
artC
So anyway, I wil debate you on anything interesting, let me know when you think of something good.
Posted by artC 9 years ago
artC
haha, i dunno.

But debate.orglet him back on, HAHA. So awesome. Can't wait to get more terrorist accusing jack bauer back.
Posted by brittwaller 9 years ago
brittwaller
Now THAT would be a fun debate to watch. But it sucks that happened.

Can our friend ever just let anything go?
Posted by artC 9 years ago
artC
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was because of his name. He came back as Jackisback, but then they took him off completely and he can't come back because they blocked his IP address. I can't even get on from his computer.

He wants me to start a debate against debate.org, haha.
Posted by brittwaller 9 years ago
brittwaller
Oh, ok. That makes sense. I thought it was funny as well - I understood the humor from the beginning, unlike others I suppose. Was he banned because of the name? Is he coming back to the site? Well, it's not my business but I liked him.
Posted by artC 9 years ago
artC
It was removed because his profile was deleted and he has officially been banned from the site. He is actually my boyfriend.

He was just beeing funny with all that terrorism stuff. He really likes the show 24. I thought he was really funny, but i guess some people didn't.
Posted by brittwaller 9 years ago
brittwaller
No, your pic change didn't come off like that at all, to me anyway. I change my pic on all my pages every once in a while. Usually it's really me, or sometimes art that I like. The one up now is there for the obvious humour connected to the avatar debate.

One question: do you know why the origin of the avatar debate was removed, due to "customer support"? Did you or jackf***ingbauer ask for it to be removed? Or was it just other people? Just curious.

Britt
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