Labor unions

I failed last debate so I will do better this time. Basically a re-match.

1. Help pay workers more

Raise wages for all workers. Studies show that a large union presence in an industry or region can raise wages even for non-union workers
http://www.americanrightsatwork.org...

The union membership rate for public sector workers (36.2 percent) was
substantially higher than the rate for private sector workers (6.9 percent).
In 2010, among full-time wage and salary workers, union members had median usual
weekly earnings of $917, while those who were not represented by unions had median
weekly earnings of $717.
http://www.bls.gov...

more pay = good no?

2. more leverage

unions allow employees to band together to negotiate for better wages and benefits, and to make sure that everyone is being treated fairly by the employer.
http://www.proconlist.com...

I believe more pay would be good for the US economy. Because reward = good right?

3. Create jobs

Created jobs for hundreds of people and immigrants.
http://www.proconlist.com...

Benefit local economic development. In partnerships with employers, community organizations, and local governments, unions have helped revitalize local economies by saving and expanding family-supporting jobs.

http://www.americanrightsatwork.org...

4. raise overall minimum wage

Advocate for increases in the minimum wage and push for living wage ordinances. Unions have been instrumental in efforts to increase the federal minimum wage, state minimum wages and in the successful living wage movement which has already resulted in over 150 local living wage laws nationwide.
http://www.americanrightsatwork.org...

conclusion:

labor unions are good. Also if there is a link under the paragraph then it was copy and pasted. Vote pro I have won.

you have improved, but you really need to debate other people ;)

C1: hurt the economy

Companies pass on those higher wages to consumers through higher prices, and often they also earn lower profits. Economic research finds that unions benefit their members but hurt consumers generally, and especially workers who are denied job opportunities.[1]

The economic detriment is because of increased wages. More wages = higher cost, higher cost = harder to higworkers as you have less money.

Unions effectively tax these investments by negotiating higher wages for their members, thus lowering profits. Unionized companies respond to this union tax by reducing investment. Less investment makes unionized companies less competitive. [1]

less investment = less economic growth.

C2: raise unemployment

Faced with such an economically unattractive scenario, corporations will choose to reduce their labor costs by outsourcing work, replacing workers with machines, and/or moving manufacturing facilities to low-labor-cost nations.[2]

by the way the economic unattractiveness is partially due to unions [2]

C3: raise costs of goods

Furthermore, those high union-mandated wages result in increased prices for manufactured goods. It has long been an established fact that as labor costs increase, demand for consumer goods diminishes and the pool of consumers shrinks. [2]

There are times when wages need to be raised to be equitable, but the power of the unions is that they can sometimes raise wages and benefits to unrealistically high levels. These levels can be above what the market can sustain, which will cause the manufacturer to raise the costs of items that it produces. [3]

The above framework doesn't rule out the theoretical possibility that union agitation leads to wage hikes, which in turn lead to general price hikes [4]

C4:RAISE TAXES

California's government unions could seek a 43 percent tax increase on wealthy Californians. The Contra Costa Times reported on the action, but missed the magnitude of the tax increase. [5]

They call for tax increases.

A Nevada labor union leader said his organization is "looking seriously" at launching a ballot initiative to put a tax hike to increase funding for education to the voters, possibly as early as the 2012 general election. [6]

Another call

=conclusion=

my case refutes his arguments. Labor unions hurt the economy. Vote con!

sources:

http://www.heritage.org... [1]
http://stephencabotblog.com... [2]
http://www.ehow.com... [3]
http://mises.org... [4]
http://www.calwatchdog.com... [5]

1) How do they hurt the economy? It is simple, higher wages = more productivity.
union workers are higher quality than you would expect for the job they are doing.
http://www.economist.com...

2) This makes no sense. Higher wages do not always mean outsourcing. Also since it rates more productivity then it would HELP the economy and make a better workforce.

3) I concede this. But once again, I think a better workforce would balance this out.

4) They do not increase taxes, they ask for increases.

You are wrong, I have already proven my point. Vote pro.

I have learned a lot in my other debate (SSM) but here i have already lost. I have incidentally been "noobish" and probably cannot save myself. I must concede sadly. I know what noob is because I google searched it. I hope I become better later. Vote con! I concede.

I win vote con!

vote con

that's that vote para mi. Thanks for the wonderful debate. I see you HAVE gotten better in your SSM debate.