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Tatarize
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Language barriers have a net positive effect on the video game industry

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Started: 5/17/2009 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Pandadeux

Con

Note: My previous account was closed for unspecified reasons. I am merely re-using my previous argument.

Resolution: Language barriers have a net positive effect on the video game industry

==DEFINITIONS:==

Video Game Industry: The industry that specialises in the development and promotion of video games.

Video Games: An electronic or computerized game played by manipulating images on a video display or television screen. [http://dictionary.reference.com......]

Language Barrier: barrier to communication resulting from speaking different languages. [http://dictionary.reference.com......]

==CON ARGUMENTS:==

===1) The cost of translating games===

Translating a game from Japanese to English, French, Italian, Spanish is quite a costly process. First and foremost, translators need to be hired to translate the text. After that, you need voice actors, which do not come cheap. Most games easily have thousands of words of text. The cost of translating is outlined here : http://www.clarktranslations.com....... The cheapest goes at $.14 per word. $.14 x 5000 = $700. This must be done for several languages, and 500 words would be considered a low amount of text.

An article here outlines the cost of a translator: http://www.gamespot.com....... A voice actor got $500,000 for game voice-over, and on average $760 for a 4 hour session of recording.

There also must be software to accommodate different words, e.g. Chinese Kanji, Russian Cyrillic, etc.

They must also translate the game manuals, covers, and back to accommodate different languages.

The above costs would not be needed if there weren't language barriers. Ergo, the language barriers are detrimental to the video game industry.

===2) The cost of promoting the game overseas===

After translation, the video game makers must then promote their game in an area with a different language. They must hire someone to promote the game in that area. They must also hire people to translate the advertisements into a different language, sometimes changing them altogether to accommodate the different words (e.g.Changing from English Latin words to Chinese Kanji).

Ergo, the cost of this also detrimental to the video game industry

===3) Quality of the finished product===

When translating from language to language different words can mean different things. Therefore, grammar can be off because of differing sentence structure and grammar, or words are off due to strict translation. This makes the game worse than it is.

Ergo, the ruining of the finished product is definitely detrimental to the video game industry.

I await my opponent's response.
Tatarize

Pro

Language barriers almost by definition are an issue rather than any net benefit. Language does carry a lot of culture, but that's a fairly moot point as far as video games go (you're there to have fun not engage in culture).

However, there are other language barriers within the video game industry that are not positive. Typically there's no cussing. It's a f*cking joke. You can murder people all the time in games but only in a few is there any cussing. I believe GTA drops a few f-bombs. But, all language is expressive and putting up some words on a pedestal is a joke. Even on this forum for example you can't use the word " @ss " but you can say " cunt ". What the fish?

This is a language barrier and it doesn't have a positive effect on the video game industry. In fact, it's nothing less than censorship.

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Debate Round No. 1
Pandadeux

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Pandadeux forfeited this round.
Tatarize

Pro

Language barriers are somewhat problematic. Having to hire translators and jigger with some of the code just provides some extra jobs. It's a bit of a hassle but it's like saying that gravity makes football a less entertaining sport. While it may be true, you can't really do anything about it.

So for the most point your argument is moot.

As for the claim itself, the language barriers are priceless. The above video overcomes everything in all the annoying problems encountered with producing games for different languages and places language barriers on the net positive side of the spectrum.

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I tried to give up my argument... but apparently my opponent doesn't have any more responses. Above is my argument in an identical debate started shortly before this one.

Oh well, can't even butcher my chances right.
Debate Round No. 2
Pandadeux

Con

Pandadeux forfeited this round.
Tatarize

Pro

My opponent never responded.

Continue from my actual round 2 argument.

All your base are belong to us.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by mongoose 7 years ago
mongoose
But you argued his case in the first round. He didn't need to respond to win.
Posted by Tatarize 7 years ago
Tatarize
What, he never responded. Heh.
Posted by Tatarize 7 years ago
Tatarize
Yes, I swear I was about to swing into action. But, since you're not going to finish up the argument due to being banned. I suppose I collect another win.
Posted by Pandadeux 7 years ago
Pandadeux
Is a counter argument really necessary?
Posted by mongeese 7 years ago
mongeese
"This is a language barrier and it doesn't have a positive effect on the video game industry."
That sounds like a concession to me.
Posted by mongoose 7 years ago
mongoose
Tatarize officially pwned himself.
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