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Laveyan Satanism is much more moral than Christianity

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/9/2015 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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It's just plain silly to think that christianity is moral nowadays, just look at the Old Testament. If you're going to argue with me, make sure you know what you're talking about.


Where is your evidence?
Debate Round No. 1


Before I state this, I will presume that you know about the two. The old testament promotes slavery, murder, destruction, pillaging etc. When was the last time anyone has viewed these things as moral? And what kind of moral person would follow such guidelines proposed in Deuteronomy and Leviticus? But, take a look at the 9 satanic sins or 11 rules and see that they don't support violence in anyway, unless the violence is provoked by the opposite party. Wherein the bible, it says to seize towns by offering them peace, then taking advantage of their acceptance.


There is nothing immoral about slavery, murder, destruction and pillaging as long as it's for the sake of a greater good.

There is something immoral about doing nothing.

As Einstein said:

The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it.

The fact is that I'd rather a person to do bad things for a good outcome than do less severe things and be fundamentally selfish in all ways.
Debate Round No. 2


What makes something for a good cause then? Because the things mentioned before, slavery and pillaging and so on, were only for a good cause in the mind of the christian that followed exactly what the bible says. Its an opinion that makes a choice for a good cause. Can we base moral goodness on an opinion? Hitler believed his internment camps were for a good cause. Do we see his morals as proper, or righteous?


Pro has failed this debate for 4 reasons.

1) Pro failed to provide a basis for morality.

2) Pro proved that LaVeyan Satanism has no passionate acts for a moral reason, either positive or negative but not that it is much more moral than Christianity.

3) Pro asks questions in Round 3 showing that he has no faith in his own cause and this questions only leave doubt in the reader's mind, they are not rhetorical.

4) Pro has literally not explained anything about LaVeyan Satanism, only about Christianity which is insufficient to meet the burden of proof.

Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by bluesteel 1 year ago
>Reported vote: CommunistDog // Moderator action: Removed<

7 points to Con. Reasons for voting decision: Pro had a lack of support to justify his claims.

[*Reason for removal*] Vote bomb. Too generic on arguments. Failure to offer any explanation for S&G, sources, and conduct.
Posted by bluesteel 1 year ago
>Reported vote: Lumberjay85 // Moderator action: Removed<

5 points to Con (arg, sources). Reasons for voting decision: Pro did not actually argue his point

[*Reason for removal*] Failure to explain sources.
Posted by Espera 1 year ago
Your immediate problem is that you are making the assumption Christianity follows a single tenet - and that said tenet makes the teachings of the Old Testament a crucial litchpin in the framework that is Christianity. This is fundamentally wrong - and the proof of that can be seen in the fact three separate religions count the Old Testament as a logical framework to build upon.

Judaism does not believe in Christ, Islamic teachings only regard Christ as a prophet rather than the son of God, and Christianity is based on the idea Jesus is both his own Father and a separate entity regarded as the Holy Spirit.

However, Christianity is fragmented into any number of sects - some completely discount the Old Testament, some fully embrace it, some cherry-pick, and some are composed entirely of wackadoodles. Have you ever heard the Mormon version of Christian doctrine? Have you? Do you know of the Judas Sect? And so forth.

As such your question is fundamentally flawed as it rests upon an assumption of Christianity that doesn't hold it. Further I would confidently make the assertion that in fact you have no idea of what you're discussing and instead are behaving like the stereotypical militant atheist. I can therefore conclude that this debate would/will/shall quickly spiral into a mess of clarification and talking pass the points of each other.

In short this will be a beautiful train wreck if it gets off the ground - I do hope to see it soon.
Posted by dsjpk5 1 year ago
Christianity didn't exist when the Old Testament was written.
Posted by Himans45 1 year ago
What kind of morality are you talking about? I agree with you though.
Posted by Elonbin1 1 year ago
Do you have a specific type of moral framework under which you want to argue. I'm assuming You want something similar to a western moral system which is sort of a pseudo utilitarian framework but I'd rather not assume anything since I don't want to get bogged down arguing the merits of different normative moral systems.
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Reasons for voting decision: Con gave little argument, but only due to Pro's failure to define the terms of what he was debating about. Pro did not use sources.