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Schuman8rr
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Lebron James is a better player than Michael Jordan

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Started: 5/27/2015 Category: Sports
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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BadGuy72

Pro

I think that Lebron James is the best basketball player that has ever played the game and therefore better than the commonly known " best " Michael Jordan , I look forward to debating anyone who wants to defend Mj !
Schuman8rr

Con

Thank you for letting me debate this with you. As you used the first round for acceptance, I will do the same. I await your arguments.
Debate Round No. 1
BadGuy72

Pro

BadGuy72 forfeited this round.
Schuman8rr

Con

Schuman8rr forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
BadGuy72

Pro

I , as well as my openeng both did not answer in time , hopefully my opponent answers next time but I will paste what I was gunna say last round and hopefully my opponent answers within the next three hours ...

I think lebron James is the best player in NBA history for many reasons , lebron is the all time SF assist leader and will most likely end up in the top 5 or 10 in assists leaders of all positions , lebron speeds the floor like no other player in the history of the sport , just like Scottie Pippen said , when lebron james is on the court , everyone is a threat to score . When Jordan played he was and still is the best scorer of all time but he didn't have the vision lebron has , it's not because of Jordan's amazing carrying abilities that no one on his team scored in double digits most of the time , it's because Jordan had the ball more than anyone by far and more time then not , he shot . That's why lebron is better in all around offense , lebron has a better FG% than Jordan because of he doesn't have a good shot he can throw a 40mph pass to a big down low that no one would consider open before that but lebron can get the pass in , or he can pass it across court to the open man at the 3 . Jordan , when he couldn't get a good shot off , he would still shoot it and miss most the time . Lebron all around offense , is better , lebron can get offensive boards , pass , and execute plays better than Jordan . On the defensive end , Jordan's DPOY doesn't mean anything when compared to lebron , back then lebron would have won multiple DPOY's , lebron can guard every position , he can guard 1-4 and lock down if he needs to and if he needs to be can guard a center for a play and have a pretty good chance against him . Jordan can only guard the SG and PG and the occasional SF but most were too big and strong for him , Jordan could steal the ball better than lebron but lebron can get boards and block better than Jordan , for example Lebron's signature chase down block . Now when the argument of who's more clutch comes , Lebron's most resent buzzer beater officially ties jordan for career made shots in the last seconds of a playoff game . And Jordan got almost all of his after he was 30 , and lebron is 30 now so lebron of you wanna be realistic , will end up getting more buzzer beaters than Jordan , and lebron in the lat 15 seconds of a game , has a better percentage than Jordan . So statistically and technically lebron is more clutch than Jordan ESPECIALLY in the playoffs . Unlike Lebron , without good teammates Jordan was HORRIBLE in the playoffs , did you know before Pippen joined him MJ was 1-9 in the playoffs in his career , 1-9 !!!! Lebron has NEVER LOST IN THE FIRST ROUND OF THE PLAYOFFS ! He is the first player since the legend celtics to go to 5 finals in a row ! Jordan couldn't even get past the first round without Pippen !! Lebron is the best playoff player in the history of the NBA he just recently passed Jordan in amount of 30-5-5 playoff games with 52 but yesterday he got it again with means he has 53 . Jordan has 51 and lebron is no where near done in the playoffs ! 2 games ago lebron put up numbers no other player in the NBA history has ever gotten , he just put up 37-18-13 IN THE PLAYOFFS ! No player has ever put up those numbers IN THE SEASON OR PLAYOFFS EVER ! Lebron is the best player ever when it comes to playoffs in the history of the NBA and you cannot argue that cause crushing I've said is facts . Lebron has countless records already over Jordan but j only have like 15 more minutes to answer this so i can't go into all of them until next round ! Lebron has the better per game stats than Jordan he averages more blocks steals and rebounds than Jordan for their careers after this season stats get out into Lebron's career averages , lebron has somewhere just over 60 career playoff triple doubles in his 9th playoff appearance , Jordan has 39 after his 13th playoff appearance , lebron is ranked number 1 in NBA history with the highest scoring average per game on elimination playoff games with 31 , he is number 1 in games in the playoffs with at least 25-10-5 with 32 times , lebron took 726 games to reach at least 20,000 points and 5,000 assist , Jordan took 926 , Scottie Pippen told Alonzo mourning that lebron would " kick michael Jordan's *** in basketball , lebron has 159 10+ assist games , Jordan has 88 , lebron is the only player in history to reach 2,000 pts , 500 rebounds , 500 assists , and 100 steals for at least 7 seasons in a row , Jordan has only 2 of those seasons and there not even in a row , those were just his two best seasons , lebron has the most 30 point triple doubles Ever with 19 and Jordan has 17 , lebron is 60% in the last 5 seconds of the 4th quarter or overtime , Jordan is 45% , NOW MAKE SURE YOU READ THIS NEXT PART .... ALL OF THE STATS I JUST POSTED WERE RECORDED IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS SEASON SO AMOST ALL OF THESE STATS HAVE GOTTEN BETTER AND BIGGER SINCE THEN INCLUDING THE PLAYOFF STATS BECAUSE LEBRON HAS BEEN AMAZING THIS PLAYOFFS , all of Jordan's stats are never getting better , his career is over , lebron has at least 5-8 more seasons so he will surpass MJ in almost everything . Scottie Pippen said out of his own mouth , " Jordan is probably the greatest scorer to ever play the game , and Lebron may be the greatest player to ever play the game ... No guy in not a threat when Lebron is on the court. " Skip Bayless of First Take said " Lebron is a better all around player than Jordan . He has more skills than Michael . " Stephen A Smith replied " we know that " Another debate Skip and Stephen also had was that skip thought MJ could guard Lebron and Stephen A Smith replied " you must be crazy , too big , too strong , too much of a locomotive coming at him , now I'm not saying Michael Jordan wouldn't be Michael Jordan , but if that's the case , why did Michael Jordan need Scottie Pippen to defend Magic Johnson when he won the world championship the first time around ? " which proves that MJ couldn't guard Lebron , Stephen A went on to say that Magic Johnson's athleticism doesn't scratch the surface of Lebron's . And the flight man himself has said he was guarding Lebron , he can't stop Lebron from driving to the right and going to the hole on him . Lebron is the best all around player of all time and that is a fact based on his stats , he can literally do everything . I would have made this bigger but I don't have enough time , looking forward to your response , but I Already know your gunna bring up the 6/6 in the finals , that's all Jordan fans do lol , lebron will win 6 finals if not more in his career , and definitly have all of the finals MVP's . Now I am going to paste a list of Lebron's career accomplishments BEFORE THIS SEASON ( which Lebron had yet again another MVP caliber season , so all of these are most likely better after this season is updated ) off of Wikipedia ...

Only player in NBA history to average at least 27 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists for their career.[citation needed]
Only player in NBA history to post at least 2000 points, 500 rebounds, 500 assists, and 100 steals in four straight seasons.[24]
Only player in NBA history to post at least 2000 points, 500 rebounds, 500 assists, and 100 steals in a single season for at least seven seasons.[25]
Only player in NBA history to post at least 2000 points, 500 rebounds, and 500 assists in a single season for at least seven seasons.[26]
Only player in NBA history to win the NBA Player of the Month Award four times in two consecutive seasons.[27]
Only player in NBA history to change teams after averaging 27 points, twice.[28]
One of two players in NBA history to average at least 27 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists for six consecutive seasons.[29]
Includes Oscar Robertson, who achieved this eight consecutive times.
One of two players in NBA history to average at least 27 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists in a single season for at least eight seasons.[30]
Includes Oscar Robertson.
One of two players in NBA history to average at least 25 points, 7 rebounds and 7 assists in a season for at least six seasons.[31]
Includes Oscar Robertson.
One of two players in NBA history to win four NBA Most Valuable Player Awards in a span of five years.[32]
Includes Bill Russell.
One of two players in NBA history to win at least two NBA Most Valuable Player Award for two different franchises.
Includes Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
One of two players in NBA history to lead NBA Finals in scoring, but play on a different team the following season.[33]
Includes Shaquille O'Neal.
One of two players in NBA history to win NBA MVP, Finals MVP, and an Olympic Gold Medal in the same year.[34]
Includes Michael Jordan (1992).
One of three players in NBA history to win NBA MVP with a team, leave, and then come back.[35]
Includes Allen Iverson and Moses Malone.
One of three players in NBA history to win NBA MVP and Finals MVP in the same season twice.[36]
Includes Larry Bird and Michael Jordan.
One of three players in NBA history to win NBA MVP and win NBA championship in two consecutive seasons.[37]
Includes Bill Russell and Michael Jordan.
One of four players in NBA history to average at least 25 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists for their career.[citation needed]
Includes Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Michael Jordan.
One of four players in NBA history to score at least 2000 points in a single season for at least nine seasons.[38]
Includes Michael Jordan (12 seasons), Karl Malone (11) and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (9).
One of five players in NBA history to score at least 10 points in 500 consecutive games.[39]
Includes Michael Jordan, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Moses Malone and Karl Malone.
One of five players in NBA history to win consecutive Finals MVP Awards.[40]
Includes Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'Neal, Hakeem Olajuwon, and Kobe Bryant.
I can't fit the rest of his accomplishments but you get where I'm coming from , Lebron is the GOAT
Schuman8rr

Con

Schuman8rr forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Schuman8rr 2 years ago
Schuman8rr
3 Hours in between posting arguments, sorry I couldn't be active enough to reach that. It is finals week after all.
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