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Started: 1/28/2016 Category: Health
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I believe it is the parents right to decide if they want to abort their fetus. Making abortion illegal would also put abortionists out of work and would have wasted money and time getting a degree in that field.


Abortion is murder. The killing of an innocent human being is wrong, even if that human being has yet to be born. Unborn babies are considered human beings by the US government. The federal Unborn Victims of Violence Act, which was enacted "to protect unborn children from assault and murder," states that under federal law, anybody intentionally killing or attempting to kill an unborn child should "be punished... for intentionally killing or attempting to kill a human being." The act also states that an unborn child is a "member of the species homo sapiens." [126] At least 38 states have passed similar fetal homicide laws. [127]

Life begins at conception, so unborn babies are human beings with a right to life. Upon fertilization, a human individual is created with a unique genetic identity that remains unchanged throughout his or her life. This individual has a fundamental right to life, which must be protected. Jerome Lejeune, the French geneticist who discovered the chromosome abnormality that causes Down syndrome, stated that "To accept the fact that after fertilization has taken place a new human has come into being is no longer a matter of taste or opinion... The human nature of the human being from conception to old age is not a metaphysical contention, it is plain experimental evidence." [15] [16]

Fetuses feel pain during the abortion procedure. Maureen Condic, PhD, Associate Professor of Neurobiology and Anatomy and Adjunct Associate Professor of Pediatrics at the University of Utah School of Medicine, explains that the "most primitive response to pain, the spinal reflex," is developed by eight weeks gestation, and adds that "There is universal agreement that pain is detected by the fetus in the first trimester." [18] According to Kanwaljeet J. S. Anand, MBBS, DPhil, Professor of Pediatrics, Anesthesiology and Neurobiology at the University of Tennessee Health Science Center, "If the fetus is beyond 20 weeks of gestation, I would assume that there will be pain caused to the fetus. And I believe it will be severe and excruciating pain." [24] Bernard N. Nathanson, MD, the late abortion doctor who renounced his earlier work and became a pro-life activist, stated that when an abortion is performed on a 12-week-old fetus, "We see [in an ultrasound image] the child"s mouth open in a silent scream... This is the silent scream of a child threatened imminently with extinction." [145]

Abortion is the killing of a human being, which defies the word of God. The Bible does not draw a distinction between fetuses and babies: the Greek word brephos is used in the Bible to refer to both an unborn child and an infant. [30] By the time a baby is conceived, he or she is recognized by God, as demonstrated in Jeremiah 1:5: "Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee..." [133] The Sixth Commandment of the Bible's Old Testament, "Thou shalt not kill" (Exodus 20:13), applies to all human beings, including unborn babies. [23] In the Hindu religion, the holy text Kaushitaki Upanishad states that abortion is an equivalent misdeed to killing one"s own parents. [148] The BBC states that "Traditional Buddhism rejects abortion because it involves the deliberate destroying of a life." [149]

The decision in Roe v. Wade was wrong and should be overturned. US Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated that the right to privacy defended in Roe v. Wade is "utterly idiotic" and should not be considered binding precedent: "There is no right to privacy [in the US Constitution]." [153] [154] In his dissenting opinion in Roe v. Wade, Justice William H. Rehnquist stated that an abortion "is not 'private' in the ordinary usage of that word. Nor is the 'privacy' that the Court finds here even a distant relative of the freedom from searches and seizures protected by the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution..." [49] Furthermore, the 14th Amendment bars states from depriving "any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." [155] The Supreme Court overreached in Roe v. Wade when it excluded unborn children from the class of "persons." [156] [157]

Abortions cause psychological damage. A 2008 peer-reviewed study published in the Scandinavian Journal of Public Health found that "Young adult women who undergo... abortion may be at increased risk for subsequent depression." [44] A peer-reviewed 2005 study published in BMC Medicine found that women who underwent an abortion had "significantly higher" anxiety scores on the Hospital Anxiety and Depression Scale up to five years after the pregnancy termination. [69] A 2002 peer-reviewed study published by the Southern Medical Journal of more than 173,000 American women found that women who aborted were 154% more likely to commit suicide than women who carried to term. [26] A 1996 study published in the British Medical Journal reported that the mean annual suicide rate amongst women who had an abortion was 34.7 per 100,000, compared with a mean rate of 11.3 per 100,000 in the general population of women. [45] An Apr. 1998 Journal of Social and Clinical Psychology study of men whose partners had abortions found that 51.6% of the men reported regret, 45.2% felt sadness, and 25.8% experienced depression. [27]

Abortions reduce the number of adoptable babies. Instead of having the option to abort, women should give their unwanted babies to people who cannot conceive. The percentage of infants given up for adoption in the United States declined from 9% of those born before 1973 to 1% of those born between 1996 and 2002. [53] As a result of the lack of women putting their children up for adoption, the number of US infant adoptions dropped from about 90,000 in 1971 to 18,000 in 2007. [46] Around 2.6 million American women were trying to adopt children as of 2002, according to the US Department of Health and Human Services. [76]

Selective abortion based on genetic abnormalities (eugenic termination) is overt discrimination. Physical limitations don't make those with disabilities less than human. The Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 [54] provides civil rights protection to people born with disabilities so they can lead fulfilling lives. The National Down Syndrome Society states that "people with Down syndrome live at home with their families and are active participants in the educational, vocational, social, and recreational activities of the community. People with Down syndrome are valued members of their families and their communities, contributing to society in a variety of ways." [66] The increase in abortions of babies with Down syndrome (over 80% of women choose to abort Down syndrome babies [70]) reduced the Down syndrome population by 15% between 1989 and 2005. [67]

Women should not be able to use abortion as a form of contraception. It is immoral to kill an unborn child for convenience. [116] The Guttmacher Institute reported that half of all women having abortions every year have had at least one previous abortion, [13] while 8.5% of abortions reported to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in 2010 were undergone by women who had three or more previous abortions. [83] This suggests that many women are using abortion as a contraceptive method. [78] Freakonomics co-author Steven Levitt, PhD, wrote that after abortion was legalized, "Conceptions rose by nearly 30 percent, but births actually fell by 6 percent, indicating that many women were using abortion as a method of birth control, a crude and drastic sort of insurance policy." [38]

If women become pregnant, they should accept the responsibility that comes with producing a child. People need to take responsibility for their actions and accept the consequences. Having sexual intercourse, even when contraceptive methods are used, carries with it the risk of a pregnancy. [128] The unborn baby should not be punished for a mistake made by adults. If women are unprepared to care for their children, they should at least put them up for adoption.

The original text of the Hippocratic Oath, traditionally taken by doctors when swearing to practice medicine ethically, forbids abortion. One section of the classical version of the oath reads: "I will not give a woman a pessary [a device inserted into the vagina] to cause an abortion." The modern version of the Hippocratic Oath, written in 1964 by Luis Lasagna, still effectively forbids doctors from performing abortions in the line, "Above all, I must not play at God." [25]

Abortion promotes a culture in which human life is disposable. The legalization of abortion sends a message that human life has little value. [144] Pope Francis condemned "'the throwaway culture'" in Jan. 2014, stating that "what is thrown away is not only food and dispensable objects, but often human beings themselves, who are discarded as 'unnecessary'. For example, it is frightful even to think there are children, victims of abortion, who will never see the light of day..." [143] House Representative Randy Hultgren (R-IL) wrote in Jan. 2014 that "When we tell one another that abortion is okay, we reinforce the idea that human lives are disposable, that we can throw away anything or anyone that inconveniences us." [36]

Allowing abortion conflicts with the unalienable right to life recognized by the Founding Fathers of the United States. The Declaration of Independence states that "[A]ll men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." [51] Abortion takes away from the unborn the unalienable right to life that the Founding Fathers intended for all human beings. [115]

Debate Round No. 1


There are 423,773 children in the U.S. foster care system; 114,556 of these children are available for adoption. Their birth parent"s legal rights have been permanently terminated and children are left without a family.
More children become available for adoption each year than are adopted. In 2009, 69,947 children had parental rights terminated by the courts, yet only 57,466 were adopted.
Children often wait three years or more to be adopted, move three or more times in foster care and often are separated from siblings. The average age of waiting children is 8 years old.
Last year, 29,471 children turned 18 and left the foster care system without an adoptive family.
Adopting from foster care is affordable. Most child welfare agencies cover the costs of home studies and court fees, and provide post-adoption subsidies. Thousands of employers offer financial reimbursement and paid leave for employees who adopt and Federal and/or state adoption tax credits are available to most families.

There are plenty of children in foster care and many do not find homes before they turn 18. Giving up a child for adoption could mean the child goes out a family its entire life and giving a child up for adoption has much more of a emotion toll on the mother that an abortion.

No one asked the to-be child if it was okay with being conceived, it was the decision of the parents, as is the option to terminate the pregnancy, there is no possible way to ask the child so it leaves the choice up to the parents.

No woman should ever be put in the situation where their life could be at risk because of having a child. It is also the mothers job to decide what is right for the baby, whether the situation is she could not provide for the child and didn't want to put the emotional toll on her self and the child by giving up for adoption or if the mother found out the child will have severe health problems that will make the life of the child painful and miserable.


OK, I'm new to this website but I have been looking around at other debates as examples. They mostly all had some rules at their first round of debate but I just jumped right in debating. Now, I specialize in PF (Public Forum) debate and we are supposed to have a rebuttal. So basically I say my case, you say yours, then in round 2, I have a rebuttal on your case and you have a rebuttal on my case. We then have a summary on the whole debate and we are done. So I don't think just slapping arguments on here without really addressing the past argument is formal or fun. Could we maybe devote this round to explaining how we are going to do this. Thanks!
Debate Round No. 2


I am new to this as well and other debates I have enter are like this as well, and have worked out fine, but I take what other people have said and given facts that show that they are wrong/ things are unnneed.


You state that there are many children in the U.S. foster system. How many children were from families not having enough money. How many children were from families not having qualified homes and lifestyle. They can't all be from not aborting. We basically know nothing from your argument. You then state that adopting is affordable which contradicts you argument of having abortions. Also, even though there is emotional toll on the mother, I'm pretty sure that aborting a baby has more of an emotional toll on the mother. You then state that the decision is up to the parents, but in my previous argument I answered your argument. You say that woman shouldn't be put at rick because of a child yet there are 255 babies born each minute.
Debate Round No. 3


There is no charity walk to raise awareness about the 700 to 800 women that die each year during pregnancy or shortly after giving birth in the U.S. There are no dedicated colored-plastic wristbands. But statistics in recent years have revealed a worrisome trend: the rate of maternal mortality in the U.S. has more than doubled in the past few decades. Whereas 7.2 women died per 100,000 births in 1987, that number swelled to 17.8 deaths per 100,000 live births in 2009 and 2011. The uptick occurred even as maternal mortality dropped in less-developed settings around the world. Now women giving birth in the U.S. are at a higher risk of dying than those giving birth in China or Saudi Arabia.

Although the risk is small, the 17.8 deaths have to come from somewhere and women should be able to decide if they want to take the chance and be one of the misfortunate mothers.

After an abortion many women are relieved and when choosing to go through adoption ,any women feel a greater loss after connection with the child while it was being carried and birthing.

Fetuses feel pain at 20 weeks and only 3.2% of abortions happen after 18 weeks. 89-92% of abortions happen in the 1st trimester which ends at 13 weeks long before the fetuses can feel pain. I believe if we were to make any laws against abortion it should make ban it after 19 weeks so, the child can't feel pain and the mothers still have time to make their decicion.

The cost for a normal, birth with out any problems on average is $1,500 to $4,000 dollars where an abortion costs on average $470. Women that have bad financial situations could also choose abortion over the high cost of birth.

Referring to your first argument we should not be making laws based off of religion and studies show 23% of Catholics don't believe abortion is a sin.

In the case of rape and the woman becomes pregnant, is it right to make her give birth to a baby that marks possible the worst day/experience in their life.

Taking away abortions will be taking away the freedom of a woman. Rape victims and mother of unwanted children will be kept for their Pursuit to Happiness. Not letting women decide to have an abortion is in some cases taking away their right to life. Either way in some cases of abortion can take away the rights of the fetus if it is aborted or the mother if she isn't allowed the option for abortion.


Good debate! I'm sorry but I have to be gone a whole week with no electronics. So I guess you win, good job!
Debate Round No. 4


Hailey_Palmer forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Hailey_Palmer 2 years ago
I believe the debate should include who laws would effect people's jobs because it is related and is affected just the same. Also if I should be calling the the parents what would you recommend they be called (and please spare us from the "murder" title).
Posted by KingoSchenk 2 years ago
First, calling them a parent contradicts your opinion. Second, the moral beliefs of the topic should have nothing to do with jobs.
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