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Legalization of Drugs

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Started: 2/22/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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SebUK

Pro

Round 1 is for acceptance only and strictly no rebuttal in Round 2 i will be arguing in favour of legalization of all drugs (yes including heroin , meth , cocaine etc) .
allentolemy007

Con

Hi Pro,first of all I thank you for posting such a meaningful debate. I clearly stand on my side that the drugs should not be legalized. I am presenting you some of the disadvantages of drug legalization. They are :-
* Stoned driving and other dangers would be increased.
*Secondly some consider use of the drug as morally wrong.
*Thirdly legalization would increase the chances of the drugs falling into the hands of kids.
I am laying stress on the third point because we know about the growing mind of the children. They doesn't know the difference between good and bad. Due to the legalization of drugs and getting addicted to them can make them hazard minded criminals and that's all for today.
I referred
http://www.balancedpolitics.org...
Debate Round No. 1
SebUK

Pro

Well if you posted your argument in Round 1 than i change the rules and i will adress the issues you have presented and say why i think drugs should be legalized now ,First of all i would like to make a little speech why i Think drugs should be legalized . The war on drugs have been going on for decades now it has cost as billions and thousands of innocent people were put into jail for a victim less crime but humanity has been using drugs for thousands of years of human history it is a part of human culture that we are not gone rid of by criminalizing it from Alexander the Great's soldiers rubbing opium on their feet to march longer to modern age cannabis use criminalizing people for drug use will not stop people doing it in fact it makes more people do it because it gives you a thrill . Now i will explain why legalizing drugs is a good idea 1. Violance&Black Market Why do we associate drug use with violance? It is because people who want to use drugs have to go to a black market to buy them this market is unregulated and uncontrolled different factions involved in drug trade are fighting against each other by legalizing drugs we would give people the chance to buy drugs from a more reliable source the government or a regulated private sectors this market is regulated most people would rather buy from it than from a drug dealer in a dark alley that has no knowledge about business managment , The black market would collapse 2.Freedom In a truely free society people shouldn't restrict the freedom of others this is very relevant to the issue of banning drugs as drug usage is a victimless crime i consider banning it to be immoral. 2.Safety Why do so many people overdose on drugs? for example heroin apart from its addictivness is almost harmless for your body the reason why people overdose on such drugs is because like i explained before they are forced to buy them from an unregulated market where drug dealers can put stuff into the drug to increase the value therefore customers are not sure how pure it is and might inject too much causing an overdose. 3.Price Drug addicts often how to commit crime to get money for their drug but if drugs were legalized the prices would go down and it wouldn't be such a hard job to get your next fix as it was before your life can be at least a tiny bit better 4. Prison Overgrowth This point is really relevant if you are living in USA , 5% of the worlds population lives in USA yet 25% of all prisoners in the world are in USA around 80% of all drug aressts were for simply having drugs on you this is putting innocent people in prison and over crowding prisons that have to be paid for. 5. Money Taxing those who produce drugs will give the government a lot of money not much to add to this argument 6.Statistics n 1970 there were 9000 convictions or cautions for drug offences and 15% of young people had used an illegal drug. In 1995 the figures were 94 000 and 45%. Prohibition doesn't work. Sources http://www.drugwarfacts.org......... http://www.poppies.ws......... 'Alexander the Great introduced poppies to the Near East, starting the flowers long history in Asia. Opium was largely used as a social drug in India and China. Ancient Asian texts described the medical properties of opium.' http://www.spiegel.de......... ' If it legalized drugs, the United States could save $85 billion to $90 billion per year. Roughly half that is spent on the current drugs policy and half that is lost in taxes that the state could have levied on legal drugs. ' . Ok now i will adress your arguments '* Stoned driving and other dangers would be increased.' My Opponent didn't explain why they would increase since just like drink driving stoned driving would be illegal , i don't see how prohibition deals with this problem , but even so i belive stoned driving is still better than drink driving because cannabis makes you drive more cautionsly and slowly. '*Secondly some consider use of the drug as morally wrong.' There is a few things wrong with this statement first of all some people view homosexuality as morally wrong this doesn't mean we should ban homosexuality also this is a logical fallacy because some people support your view it doesn't make it any more true . '*Thirdly legalization would increase the chances of the drugs falling into the hands of kids.' I do not think this is true because the black market would fall children would have to go to a drugs shop and buy it , there would definatly be age restrictions just like there are age restrictions for drinking alcohol . ' Due to the legalization of drugs and getting addicted to them can make them hazard minded criminals and that's all for today.' First of all Legalization would lead to prices of drugs falling making it easier for the addicts to get their next fix second of all i would like to add that not every drug addict is a criminal this is just a sterotypical view . The Link my opponent gave me only addresses the issue of marijuana legalization and has many bad arguments against legalization of marijuana in fact the first one on the list against marijuana is not true , 'Marijuana is often used as a stepping-stone drug, leading to heroin, cocaine, or other harder drugs.' Many people belive in the 'gateway drug' myth , Scientists long ago abandoned the idea that marijuana causes users to try other drugs Marijuana is the most popular illegal drug therefore people who go onto harder drugs have been likely to have tried Marijuana first , even if there is a 'gateway drug' it more likely is Nicotine or Alcohol .
allentolemy007

Con

In the above debate argument you that,
"If it legalized drugs, the United States could save $85 billion to $90 billion per year. Roughly half that is spent on the current drugs policy and half that is lost in taxes that the state could have levied on legal drugs. "
The answer to this point can be said in one sentence,Money cannot stand above the spoiled life of the drug addicts and their families.The money saved from legalization of drugs is of no value it costs many life of innocent people.
Another point was,
"2.Safety Why do so many people overdose on drugs? for example heroin apart from its addictivness is almost harmless for your body."
Now this is an article from About.com Alcoholism
As with most illegal drugs, heroin use has both short-term and long-term effects. Whether injected, snorted or smoked, heroin will begin to affect the body's central nervous system almost immediately after it is used.
Short-Term Effects
Shortly after using, a feeling of euphoria will come over users, in which they have a warm flushing of the skin, a dry mouth and the feeling of having "heavy" arms and legs. After the initial rush, users will go into an alternately wakeful and drowsy state sometimes called "on the nod."
Because heroin suppresses the central nervous system, the user experiences "cloudy" mental function. Users will begin to breathe at a slower rate and their breathing can reach a point of respiratory failure.
Long-Term Effects
Repeated and chronic heroin users who fail to use sterile technique or share equipment will begin to experience the long-term effects of such practices:
"Infection of the heart lining and valves, normally due to lack of sterile technique.
"Liver disease - approximately 70-80% of new hepatitis C infections in the U.S. each year are the result of injection drug use, and even sharing snorting straws has been linked to hepatitis transmission.
"Kidney disease.
"Pulmonary complications, which are often infection related
"Skin infections and abscesses, especially among chronic injectors who suffer scarred or collapsed veins
In addition to the risk of contracting the hepatitis virus, heroin users also have an increased risk of catching human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) and other blood-borne viruses.
Overdose
The most serious health effect of heroin use is the possibility of death due to accidental overdose.
Because heroin is an illegal drug and can be handled and cut (mixed with other ingredients) by various suppliers before it reaches street-level users, those who use the drug never know how potent or pure the heroin they are using is until they use it.
Heroin is often mixed with sugar, starch, quinine, and sometimes, strychnine or other poisons, adding other potential dangers. Because of the unknown strength and actual contents of the heroin they are taking, users are at a great risk of overdose and death.
Addiction
Another dangerous effect of heroin use is the highly addictive nature of the drug. All heroin users, even those who only snort or smoke the drug, can become addicted with repeated use.
Over time, heroin users develop a tolerance for the drug requiring them to use increasingly larger amounts to achieve the same feeling they experienced when they first began to use.
After awhile, the tolerance level to the drug rises to the level that heroin use in any amount stops producing the euphoric effect the user once experience altogether. When this occurs, the addict continues to seek and take the drug just to feel "normal." They become physically dependent upon the drug.
Withdrawal
When people addicted to heroin try to stop using they can experience extreme withdrawal symptoms. The symptoms can include:
"Extreme craving for the drug
"Restlessness
"Muscle and bone pain
"Vomiting
The most severe heroin withdrawal symptoms peak between 48 and 72 hours after stopping use and can last up until a week.
Now my argument
A 2001 Australian study of 18- to 29-year-olds by the NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research suggests that prohibition deters illicit drug use.[30] 29% of those who had never used cannabis cited the illegality of the substance as their reason for never using the drug, while 19% of those who had ceased use of cannabis cited its illegality as their reason.
Controls and prohibitions help to keep prices higher, and higher prices help keep use rates relatively low, since drug use, especially among young people, is known to be sensitive to price. The relationship between pricing and rates of youth substance use is well-established with respect to alcohol and cigarette taxes. There is literature showing that increases in the price of cigarettes triggers declines in use."[31]
The DEA argues "Legalization has been tried before"and failed miserably. Alaska"s experiment with legalization in the 1970s led to the state"s teens using marijuana at more than twice the rate of other youths nationally. This led Alaska"s residents to vote to re-criminalize marijuana in 1990."[32]
Debate Round No. 2
SebUK

Pro

'The answer to this point can be said in one sentence,Money cannot stand above the spoiled life of the drug addicts and their families.The money saved from legalization of drugs is of no value it costs many life of innocent people.' Here my opponent claims that drug addiction takes innocent lifes but my opponent failed to give an example and how prohibition would deal with it , I see that as a pointless argument . After that my opponent uses so obviously copied and pasted description of what it feels like after consuming heroin and what are the possible dangers yet my opponent fails to realize is that alcohol is still more harmful and the big majority of heroin addicts die because of overdose that would be rare if heroin was legal. Than my opponent continues his copy and pasted work and the article that he found the text in talks about high prices many forget that when drugs prices are lower it is less attractive for the black market . 'The DEA argues "Legalization has been tried before"and failed miserably. ' That is not true drugs have been starting to get criminalized at the start of the 20th century many of which are the results of propaganda campaigns like the wood industry was fighting for legalization of cannabis so that less hemp was made because it was taking over the wood industry since hemp is much better for making paper. Also drugs have been decriminalized in Portugal yet it barely affected the numbers 'Notably, decriminalization has become increasingly popular in Portugal since 2001. Except for some far-right politicians, very few domestic political factions are agitating for a repeal of the 2001 law. And while there is a widespread perception that bureaucratic changes need to be made to Portugal"s decriminalization framework to make it more efficient and effective, there is no real debate about whether drugs should once again be criminalized. More significantly, none of the nightmare scenarios touted by preenactment decriminalization opponents " from rampant increases in drug usage among the young to the transformation of Lisbon into a haven for "drug tourists" " has occurred.' http://www.cato.org... . I am dissapointed that my opponent out of lack of arguments used copied and pasted work only i urge everyone to vote pro.
allentolemy007

Con

allentolemy007 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
SebUK

Pro

I extend my arguments and urge everyone to vote pro
allentolemy007

Con

allentolemy007 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
SebUK

Pro

I further extend my arguments
allentolemy007

Con

allentolemy007 forfeited this round.
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