Lelouch Vi Britannia of Code geass is dead
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FIrst, I am glad that Con tried to find a loophole into this debate, however, I can still breeze through this debate with ease.
With accepting con's term of Lelouch be dead the whole entire time, I want con to accept the term of dead as:
Dead: A state of death in reality.
(Assuming Con does accept)
FIrstly, At the beginning of Code geass R1, Lelouch accidentally gets himself in trouble with terrorists (rebels) and eventually finds himself running away from the Britannian Royal guards. However when in the scene where Lelouch gets caught due to his phone; C2 saves Lelouch's life. Then Lelouch gets geass from C2. After that event, several episodes later, when Cornelia invades the ghetto, C2 tries to stop Lelouch from counter-invading Cornelia by pointing a gun at Lelouch, threatening to shoot Lelouch, but Lelouch replies by saying that he was dead already, that he was living a fake life, because C2 saved him and gave him Geass.
I don't really know the specific episode but I believe it's episode 6-9 between the two episodes, one of them contain the reference I am talking about.
To begin i do not accept death as a state of mind like my opponent is saying the term dead means no longer alive meaning the body no longer functions and is at a permanent end.
Secondly if i were to follow my opponents definition of death as a state of mind. The quote my opponent refers to is actually used in the context of Lelouch feeling dead in the with his boring life at the start of the anime and that C2 gave him his life back meaning his mind was no longer in a dead state so through the entire anime he was still not absolutely dead but only "dead" in one instance.
So, I will not accept con's condition, if he does not accept mine.
And not only did i successfully reject my opponent's conditions i also addressed them as if they were justified which they are not.
"Lelouch is dead at the end of Code geass" as you can see on my first post I specifically said that, since Con accepted this argument and assuming that read my 1st post then, it should be a mere fact that Lelouch died at the end of Code geass.
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Vote Placed by bladerunner060 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: I did not find Con's attempt at a semantical argument compelling. He seems to concede that Lelouch is dead in the final episodes, wanting instead to argue that Lelouch "is" alive, and giving the case that for the majority of the anime Lelouch "is" alive. Unfortunately, not only is such a semantical case frankly dishonest, it also doesn't actually address the motion--based on Con's arguments, it can be said that Lelouch is alive--and that Lelouch is dead, depending on the episode. Since Con seems to concede that Lelouch "is" dead in the final episode, the resolution is affirmed. Con, semantical gambits are very dangerous--you have to really have your ducks in a row. I was tempted to award conduct, too, but I'm a bit on the fence about it. Arguments, at least, to Pro, for Con's concession in the final round (he excludes the final episode, by implication granting that in the final episode Lelouch "is" dead, thus affirming the resolution). As always, happy to clarify this RFD.
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