Liam Neeson currently outdoes Chuck Norris on a "Bad A**" Scale
1. Chuck Norris is getting too old & overrated.
For as long as I can remember I have always seemed to hear a Chuck Norris joke at least 3-5 times a week. This has been going on for years & years. I personally think the Chuck jokes have simply gotten too old & I feel like we need a "New Chuck Norris". I feel Liam is the perfect fit.
2. Liam Neeson has played more "Bad A**" roles on television (I will only name movies from 1990 to today)
A. Danny Scoular in The Big Man
B. Peyton Westlake in Darkman
C. Rob Roy in Rob Roy
D. Michael Collins in Michael Collins
E. Jean Valjean in Les Mis"rables
F. Qui-Gon Jinn in The Phantom Menace
G. Charlie Mayo in Gun Shy
H. Vasili Arkhipov in K-19: The Widowmaker
I. "Priest" Vallon in Gangs of New York
J. Henri Ducard/Ra's al Ghul in Batman Movies
K. Aslan in The Chronicles of Narnia
L. Carver in Seraphim Falls
M. Bryan Mills in Taken
N. Zeus in Clash of the Titans
M. John "Hannibal" Smith in The A-Team
O. Damon Pennington in The Next Three Days
P. Dr. Martin Harris in Unkown
Q. John Ottway in The Grey
R. Admiral Shane in Battleship
That's 18 movies that I personally would consider Liam to be playing "Bad A**" characters...
Like I said, I'm looking forward to a great debate & I can't wait to see what my opponent has to say...
"Chuck Norris is getting too old & overrated."
I would like to counter this with saying that I believe Liam Neeson is not only getting too old (he is age 60 and nearing retirement http://en.wikipedia.org...) but also overrated considering that it was nearly impossible for me not to see blasted on a billboard anywhere "Taken 2" when it was the craze and in fact virtually all his movies, and he himself has head-over-heels fans making sites such as this http://tinyurl.com... all over the internet.
"Liam Neeson has played more "Bad A**" roles on television (I will only name movies from 1990 to today)"
A Bada$$ scale is a measure of quality, not quantity. An unfortunately, other than Star Wars and Batman Liam Neeson's movies has rather pathetic, artificial fighting compared to the brutal martial-art fuelled action films of Chuck Norris.
Let me name all of Chuck Norris' movies one by one.
2012 The Expendables 2
2005 The Cutter
2005 Walker, Texas Ranger: Trial by Fire (TV movie)
2003 Bells of Innocence
2002 The President's Man: A Line in the Sand (TV movie)
1993-2001 Walker, Texas Ranger (TV series)
– The Final Showdown: Part 1 (2001) … Cordell Walker
– The Final Showdown: Part 2 (2001) … Cordell Walker
– Blood Diamonds (2001) … Cordell Walker
– Reel Rangers (2001) … Cordell Walker
– Unsafe Speed (2001) … Cordell Walker
2000 The President's Man (TV movie)
2000 Martial Law (TV series)
– Honor Among Strangers (2000) … Cordell Walker
1999 Sons of Thunder (TV series)
– Thunder by Your Side (1999) … Cordell Walker
– Lost & Found (1999) … Cordell Walker
– Fighting Back (1999) … Cordell Walker
– Moment of Truth (1999) … Cordell Walker
1998 Logan's War: Bound by Honor (TV movie)
1996 Forest Warrior
1995 Top Dog
1994 Walker Texas Ranger 3: Deadly Reunion
Ranger Cordell Walker
1993 Wind in the Wire (TV movie)
1991 The Hitman
1990 Delta Force 2: The Colombian Connection
Col. Scott McCoy
1988 Hero and the Terror
1988 Braddock: Missing in Action III
Col. James Braddock
1986 The Delta Force
Maj. Scott McCoy
1985 Invasion USA
1985 Code of Silence
1985 Missing in Action 2: The Beginning
Colonel James Braddock
1984 Missing in Action
Col. James Braddock
1983 Lone Wolf McQuade
1982 Forced Vengeance
1982 Silent Rage
Sheriff Dan Stevens
1981 An Eye for an Eye
1980 The Octagon
1979A Force of One
John T. Booker
John David 'J.D.' Dawes
1974Slaughter in San Francisco
Chuck Slaughter / Chuck Norris
1973The Student Teachers
1972Way of the Dragon
1968The Wrecking Crew
Man in the House of 7 Joys (uncredited)
My contentions are as follows:
1. Norris follows his own fighting style while Neeson does nothing more than mimic pre-made CIA styled ones, overused in virtually all modern day secret-agent action movies.
Norris created the martial art Chun Kuk Do, which is based primarily on Tang Soo Do and includes elements from every combat style he knows. Like many other martial arts, Chun Kuk Do includes a code of honor and rules to live by. These rules are from Chuck Norris's personal code. They are:
I will develop myself to the maximum of my potential in all ways.
I will forget the mistakes of the past and press on to greater achievements.
I will continually work at developing love, happiness and loyalty in my family.
I will look for the good in all people and make them feel worthwhile.
If I have nothing good to say about a person, I will say nothing.
I will always be as enthusiastic about the success of others as I am about my own.
I will maintain an attitude of open-mindedness.
I will maintain respect for those in authority and demonstrate this respect at all times.
I will always remain loyal to my God, my country, family and my friends.
I will remain highly goal-oriented throughout my life because that positive attitude helps my family, my country and myself.
Like most traditional martial arts, Chun Kuk Do includes the practice of forms (or kata). The majority of the system’s forms are taken from Shotokan, but also includes 1 organization form, and three weapons forms from Isshin Ryu. http://tinyurl.com...
Pyong An Cho Dan
Pyong An Yi Dan
Pyong An San Dan
Pyong An O Dan
Urashi Bo(Bo kata)
Shishi-No-Kun-No-Dai(Advanced bo kata for 3rd degree black belt)
UFAF Form 1(part 1, required for red belt)
UFAF Form 1(part 2, required for black belt)
2. The role that Chuck Norris, consistently plays, is that of an inventive crazy man amongst hugely trained martial artists whilst Neeson merely plays a highly trained assassin against many inexperienced fighting newbies.
In basically every single Neeson movie he is almost always an extremely highly trained assassin of some kind who always, for some reason, fights newbies. It's not even in Taken, where this is most blatantly obvious, but in Star Wars (where his defeat is by pure luck of Darth Maul's blade with him, during the whole movie only fighting idiotic droids) but also in Batman, whereby he just happens to be the most highly recognised, feared and well-off fighter of all the villains of Batman Ra's al-Ghul who, for the vast majority of the movie was only fighting amateurs.
On the other hand, Chuck Norris in every single one of his movies has been an EXTREMELY out manned, outnumbered or outgunned fighter who gets through by his pure hard-core bada$$ spirit.
3. In all of Chuck Norris' movies the only person to genuinely beat him off was the highest ranked Kung Fu martial artist/actor of all time. Liam Neeson, in both Star Wars and Batman is fought off by a less-ranked fighter.
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Aww don't pull a Neeson on me...
Parksterthejenkins forfeited this round.
Chuck Norris doesn't lose debates, he lets you beat him or actually tries.
You just got tried on.