The Instigator
dulinl
Pro (for)
Losing
12 Points
The Contender
repete21
Con (against)
Winning
57 Points

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/13/2007 Category: Politics
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 1,854 times Debate No: 392
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dulinl

Pro

I think it's pretty obvious. Reviewing many of these debates you find ppl will ignore argument and vote what they view. I've seen many cases were ppl have added argument in their comment justifying their vote. Adding argument clearly shows that when they were voting they added that into the equation, distorting the out come.

I say that Lib's are guilty of this because they think with their hearts. So, they do things that are not in the spirit of the competition because the ends justify the means. Also most out comes that have this voting that doesn't reflect the argument end up in favor of a week argument presented by a lib.
repete21

Con

First off, I would like to make it known, I am a conservative, and for that matter, a strong conservative, and I am upset that you stereotype the people who you assume don't judge on the quality of debate as "libs", and that you assume that because outcomes are generally liberal, which I would like to see a statistic on, the liberals are voting simply on opinion. Can you honestly tell me that you do not have the least bit of bias when you see a debate about the wars, or abortion? When a conservative side is taken on a side, where most of the voters are liberal, they have a lot of ground to make up, because they must sway, rather than affirm the judges previous opinions. You have not considered the fact that there could be more liberal than conservatives who are active in voting
Debate Round No. 1
dulinl

Pro

Yes, I hold bias on issues...if asked I'll link one debate were I specified in my comment that I will not be voting do to bias. So, that's that. The number of libs on the site wouldn't matter if debates are based on their argument. Your point that the number of libs on the site influences the out come of the debates is proof of my argument. I specify libs, because by nature they don't think things through, they feel things through. I don't see any real challenge to my statement other than you didn't like it.
repete21

Con

You have based your argument completely on the fact that you believe that liberals don't read the debate, but rather vote for their opinion. Also I would like to say, that if every one skipped out on all issues that they had a bias on, this website wouldn't exist, because unless you are completely oblivious to the topic, you almost always have a bias, sub-consciously, or otherwise, you have proven nothing, except that in your opinion liberals don't think things through, which you cannot back up at all.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by zarul 9 years ago
zarul
Dulinl, you could have easily won this debate if you hadn't destroyed your own ground with the topic sentence! When you say "libs have hijacked this website" instead of "too many people on this site vote based on their personal opinions". When you get that specific, then you destroy your own ground. You could have linked all the arguments on this site where a better debater lost, just because the issue was on popular. But when you make a statement like you did, starting off you're at a real disadvantage. Just some constructive criticism...
Posted by SofiLove 9 years ago
SofiLove
I am a liberal...and I have to say that I've voted depending on who has the best arguements and knows how to back them up. So I agree with repete21. In the same way, I've been on real debates, and I have bowed down because the person opposite me has better arguements and I'm not afraid to admit it. By the way, there's nothing wrong with thinking with your heart sometimes. In fact, if more people did it once in awhile this world would be a much better place.
Posted by wingnut2280 9 years ago
wingnut2280
There might be a lot of exception, but apart from the debate, I think he is right. Some of the debates I read, it's like "how did this guy get 8 votes??". Some people may vote by debate, but it seems like you are at a disadvantage if people don't agree with your stance.
Posted by schoolglutton 9 years ago
schoolglutton
I've voted on four abortion debates, all of which I voted on the side of pro-life. I am not pro-life, but the pro-choicers here haven't been doing a very good job arguing.
Posted by DrAcula 9 years ago
DrAcula
oh, but alluding to irony is better than not letting it be noticed at all.
Posted by Tatarize 9 years ago
Tatarize
I hate dulinl, so I voted against that punk.

Also Repeat actually said "prove your case" and Dulinl didn't. Burden of proof: That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

DrAcula, his statement was meant to be ironic. You shouldn't point it out, ruins the effect.
Posted by A-ThiestSocialist 9 years ago
A-ThiestSocialist
I'll agree that people aren't voting on the debate but what they believe, but it's happening on both sides.
Posted by DrAcula 9 years ago
DrAcula
"that was the dulin!" in me speaking. I knows your a moderate
Posted by DrAcula 9 years ago
DrAcula
i dont even want to point out the irony in your statement, willact :)
Posted by willact723 9 years ago
willact723
Normally I don't vote based on reading the topic, because that isn't the point. But I saw the stupid topic, and decided to vote Con.
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